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To: JustaTech
Yep. Apple has handed the Chinese government the keys to its cloud data as a condition of doing business in China.

Sigh. No, Apple has not handed over the keys to the iCloud data to the Chinese Government. Following the LAWS in China, Apple is required to have the data for Chinese iCloud customers within China's borders. As part of that law, the encryption keys ALSO have to be stored somewhere within the physical borders of China. That does not mean in the possession of the Chinese Government. Apple has those encryption keys in their Peking Apple China Corporate office, where, if necessary the Chinese Court system can require Apple to unlock various court ordered accounts.

Yes, you are correct, Amazon and the other silicon giants are doing the same because to do business within the borders of China, they have to comply with the laws of China, just as they have to comply with the laws of the United States to do business here.

The social score in China is determined by their participation on SOCIAL MEDIA, not by their participation on the Apple iCloud which is not a social media platform. The Chinese have equivalents to Facebook and Twitter and YouTube. That is what their social scores are being based on. And no, the Chinese do not lose their organs if their score goes too low. That's an urban legend. They do lose travel passports and jobs are put in jeopardy.

In China today, as well as the near-future America envisioned by Apple and most of Silicon Valley, you are a resource which will be exploited to the fullest one way or another.

Apple is not interested in selling its customers, contrary to your statement above. They do want to "exploit" them as customers. . . but not as products, the way Facebook and Google intend. Apple has been vehement about customer's privacy, sometimes to the point of fighting the government about it.

35 posted on 09/20/2018 9:06:20 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: Swordmaker

I had to log onto iCloud to locate my iPod a few days ago-———since then they have been steadily offering a “Two-factor Authentication” as an extra layer of security.

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36 posted on 09/20/2018 9:10:56 PM PDT by Mears (')
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To: Swordmaker

“because someone who consistently buys Classical music is not suddenly going to buy hundreds of HipHop tracks” or they could have a new girlfriend. ;-)


39 posted on 09/20/2018 9:21:51 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free)
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To: Swordmaker

Do Falun Gong get to keep all their organs?

If not the actual iCloud keys (I’ll take your word on that), do you think Apple might hand over specific curated data to the Chinese government in exchange for favorable treatment?
Like, oh say, secretly handing over a list of customers whose decrypted iCloud data matches templates of Falun Gong activity or sympathy?

If the US determines that Apple or any other company within reach of US jurisdiction is engaging in such practices, the executive leadership should be prosecuted and all assets confiscated. If we don’t presently have law to that effect now, we should fix that pronto.


51 posted on 09/22/2018 11:56:31 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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