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Hilary’s 95% chance of winning and today’s “polls”; both built on same faulty turnout models
vanity | Sept 5, 2018 | By Kevin Collins

Posted on 09/05/2018 9:05:06 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

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Honest poll results are built on actual turnout swaying events. There has not been a single thing Democrats can point to as honest good news for them. Faulty turnout modeled "polls" don't mean anything but smiles on Democrats' faces.

The hard facts are that every economic factor is up and up big. We had a 4.2% GDP and the same Fed office who correctly predicted that is predicting a 4.7% GDP for 3rd Quarter numbers. 56% of voters say Democrats are out of step with America and 85% of blue collar workers - the ones who turned out big for Trump are satisfied with the economy. No blue wave coming PERIOD!

1 posted on 09/05/2018 9:05:06 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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the problem is the rats are chomping at the bit to vote..unlike 2010 and 2014 when the GOPe benefited from the Tea Party, they’ve done NOTHING to GOTV...


2 posted on 09/05/2018 9:08:36 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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Same as 2016 for me: not taking any polls seriously but I’m dead serious about showing up first thing in the morning Nov. 6 and voting for the red team.


3 posted on 09/05/2018 9:12:02 AM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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The fake polls are intended to discourage campaign donations.

Who wants to donate to a loser?


4 posted on 09/05/2018 9:12:25 AM PDT by Prolixus (In all seriousness:)
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My question - are federal elections still open and honest?

We see how much our DC elites, rig everything else. What remains clean?


5 posted on 09/05/2018 9:13:09 AM PDT by PGR88
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They have a poll-model built for four key factors: (1) nothing being accomplished by GOP leadership, (2) a black President who says he’s going to resolve the black community issues, (3) a marginal commerce landscape and nothing much to be thrilled over the GDP, and then (4) a news media blindly trusted.

I would suggest that the model is basically broke. I might even go and suggest that they’ve never (in 200 years) had to deal with something like Trump. He’s like the good ‘Frankenstein’ that saves the village, prevents the dam from bursting, saves kids from the wolves, and paints portraits of faraway landscapes.


6 posted on 09/05/2018 9:18:37 AM PDT by pepsionice
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I agree with you on the “chomping at the bit” statement.

I see virtually no enthusiasm for voting on the Repub side here in NH and the Dems can't wait to get to the polls.

Other than Tax reform and regulation rollbacks, what do the Repubs have to offer is the attitudes i am seeing from people.

Turnout is everything, but i don't see it on the Repub side at all.

7 posted on 09/05/2018 9:22:43 AM PDT by CapnJack
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“the problem is the rats are chomping at the bit to vote..unlike 2010 and 2014 when the GOPe benefited from the Tea Party, they’ve done NOTHING to GOTV...” The real problem is that you are merely guess,
As I’ve said and backed up with hard numbers it is the Republicans who are enthusiastic not the Dems. In yesterday’s poll from Mo it was 45/41 Repubs In last weeks’ Wisconsin poll it was the Dems losing 9 points of enthusiasm and falling behind the Republicans for the first time. Facts, my friend, not feelings.


8 posted on 09/05/2018 9:23:03 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberal is lies.)
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The press lies to us - - and they lie to themselves:

“Why Trump Will Never Make the Ballot” – The Daily Beast (8/20/2015)

“Relax, Donald Trump Can’t Win” – The Nation (6/21/2016)

“On Nov. 9, let’s pretend Donald Trump never happened” – Chicago Tribune (10/24/2016)

As the old saying goes – “the more things change, the more they stay the same” – so it seems with the predictions for President Trump’s failure now.

“Poll by sinking poll, Trump inches toward impeachment” – The Washington Post (8/31/2018)

“Poll finds Trump would lose in 2020 against literally any Democrat” – AOL (3/7/2018)

“No, impeachment will not crash the stock market” – Politico (8/23/2018)

“How Trump Lost Re-election in 2020” – The New York Times (7/29/2018)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3684806/posts


9 posted on 09/05/2018 9:23:14 AM PDT by GOPJ (Republicans act like they're at a country club- Democrats like they're at a boxing match. Starboard)
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According to the latest McLaughlin national monthly generic poll published on 8/29/2018, a poll of likely voters, it is 44 R/44 D.

http://mclaughlinonline.com/2018/08/29/ma-poll-national-monthly-august/


10 posted on 09/05/2018 9:23:16 AM PDT by Signalman
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Given the #WalkAway movement, and the 30+% support for Trump among Blacks, there is zero chance that the turnout models used by most polling organizations are anywhere near correct.


11 posted on 09/05/2018 9:25:11 AM PDT by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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I think black turn out will be much higher in 2018 and 2020. However, they don’t be voting D.


12 posted on 09/05/2018 9:25:39 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (They never thought she would lose.)
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Modern polling is built to direct, not to predict. The media realizes they drive opinion and are actively engaged in doing that daily.


13 posted on 09/05/2018 9:27:59 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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Well, that’s NH. I’m not surprised.


14 posted on 09/05/2018 9:28:32 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (They never thought she would lose.)
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I see virtually no enthusiasm for voting on the Repub side here in NH and the Dems can't wait to get to the polls.

We don't need to vote. We don't need enthusiasm.

We just need to look at the polls that say the Democrats are leading and then remind everyone that all the polls said Hillary was going to win too.

That's all! And then, like magic, red wave!

15 posted on 09/05/2018 9:29:36 AM PDT by Drew68
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The polls are oversampled democRATS and thus show a preference for democRATS.

They are intended to drive public opinion, not reflect it.


16 posted on 09/05/2018 9:34:03 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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I don’t agree with his premise of using the media as innocent participants in all of this. They are the pollsters and they are lying to us. Nobody is lying to them.


17 posted on 09/05/2018 9:36:41 AM PDT by JerseyDvl ("If you're going through hell, keep going.")
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I get calls from political pollsters 2 - 3 times a week. I always lie to them.


18 posted on 09/05/2018 9:49:25 AM PDT by motor_racer (If you don't read the news, you are uninformed. If you read the news, you are misinformed.)
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The polls overestimated the Black turnout last time?

If they are doing that again this time, that could affect some Senate and gubernatorial races.

But it's not likely to affect House races much, since African-Americans tend to be concentrated in House districts that are already held by the Democrats, districts Republicans won't win.

If the polls are wrong this time it would probably be because they overestimate opposition to Trump by suburban voters.

If they don't, they may be on target this time.

19 posted on 09/05/2018 9:51:33 AM PDT by x
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Not to be a smart ass but is your sampling based on who you talk to, what you see on TV or hear on the radio?

The narrative is Dems are ready to vote. It is true. If you look at the narrative on Kavanaugh, one would think there is no chance he gets in.......yet the opposite is almost 100% true.

We are coming up on a referendum on the direction of the country. Every indicator is the direction is spot on....and people are happy. They are not going to trade in a horse which is running so well.

The libtards don’t get more votes based on how many times they yell “shame” or some other stupid illogical chant they come up with. Those folks who really are undecided aren’t going to side with the children throwing a temper tantrum in aisle five. Throwing food is not the way to make friends and influence people.


20 posted on 09/05/2018 9:55:31 AM PDT by PSUGOP
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