Posted on 07/17/2018 10:53:58 AM PDT by Starman417
There is much hand-wringing and consternation over the Trump-Putin presser. No response was more over the top than that of John Brennan:
https://twitter.com/JohnBrennan/status/1018885971104985093
We have told over and over and over that the Russians were trying to hack the election. Today Ezra Klein wrote that the 2016 election was "sabotaged."
But who has seen the proof? Have you?
We were told over and over that 17 agencies agreed on the assessment. That was a lie.
Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper does not know what caused the now-debunked claim that all 17 intelligence agencies backed an assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election to spread.But who's on that list?Clapper discussed the matter on CNN on Thursday evening, prompted by comments earlier in the day from President Donald Trump.
While in Warsaw, Poland for the G-20 summit, Trump was asked about the intelligence community's assessment that Russia interfered in the election and his doubts about Moscow's role. Trump challenged the popular "17 agencies" figure, pointing out that it had been shown to be false.
"It turned out to be three or four. It wasn't 17," he said.
Comey- who hated Trump
Brennan- who hates Trump
Clapper- who hates Trump
On what evidence was the assessment made? The FBI was never allowed to examine the DNC servers.
The Democratic National Committee "rebuffed" a request from the FBI to examine its computer services after it was allegedly hacked by Russia during the 2016 election, a senior law enforcement official told CNN Thursday.Later, the DNC would claim that the FBI never requested access to the servers."The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," a senior law enforcement official told CNN. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."
"The DNC had several meetings with representatives of the FBI's Cyber Division and its Washington Field Office, the Department of Justice's National Security Division, and US Attorney's Offices, and it responded to a variety of requests for cooperation, but the FBI never requested access to the DNC's computer servers," Eric Walker, the DNC's deputy communications director, told BuzzFeed News.Today saw some media hacks trying to rewrite the story:
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1018890695946440705
So who is everyone depending on for the Russian connection?
Crowdstrike
Crowdstrike has a credibility problem:
WASHINGTON — An influential British think tank and Ukraine’s military are disputing a report that the U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike has used to buttress its claims of Russian hacking in the presidential election.Lee Stranahan:The CrowdStrike report, released in December, asserted that Russians hacked into a Ukrainian artillery app, resulting in heavy losses of howitzers in Ukraine’s war with Russian-backed separatists.
But the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) told VOA that CrowdStrike erroneously used IISS data as proof of the intrusion. IISS disavowed any connection to the CrowdStrike report. Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense also has claimed combat losses and hacking never happened.
A CrowdStrike spokesperson told VOA that it stands by its findings, which, they say, "have been confirmed by others in the cybersecurity community.”
The challenges to CrowdStrike’s credibility are significant because the firm was the first to link last year’s hacks of Democratic Party computers to Russian actors, and because CrowdStrike co-founder Dimiti Alperovitch has trumpeted its Ukraine report as more evidence of Russian election tampering.
The Crowdstrike report, titled “Use of Fancy Bear Android Malware in Tracking of Ukrainian Field Artillery Units“, was issued by the company on December 22, 2016. It’s a slickly produced document, with a frightening comic book-style cover and plenty of charts and graphs. Crowdstrike’s villain in the report is Fancy Bear, which they say is a hacking group controlled by Russia’s GRU intelligence agency. Crowdstrike itself gave the group the name Fancy Bear, with ‘Bear’ referring to Russia and ‘Fancy’ referring to the song Fancy by Iggy Izalea.On June 15, 2016 Crowdstrike claimed that Fancy Bear was behind the DNC hacks in an article title Bears in the Midst: Intrusion into the Democratic National Committee. That post came the day after the Washington Post published an article claiming Russian government hackers penetrated DNC and stole opposition research on Trump, quoting Crowdstrike’s co-founder Dmitri Alperovitch, who is scheduled to testify Monday in front of the House Intel committee hearing. In that June WaPo article, Alperovitch seemed unsure on details but pinned the hack on Fancy Bear:
CrowdStrike is not sure how the hackers got in. The firm suspects they may have targeted DNC employees with “spearphishing” emails. These are communications that appear legitimate — often made to look like they came from a colleague or someone trusted — but that contain links or attachments that when clicked on deploy malicious software that enables a hacker to gain access to a computer. “But we don’t have hard evidence,” Alperovitch said. The two groups did not appear to be working together, Alperovitch said. Fancy Bear is believed to work for the GRU, or Russia’s military intelligence service, he said.
Let us repeat a relevant portion:
“But we don’t have hard evidence,”
Thus the only basis for the assessment may never have happened.
(Excerpt) Read more at Floppingaces.net...
“These guys have six ways from Sunday to get back at you”
From the article: “We have told over and over and over that the Russians were trying to hack the election. Today Ezra Klein wrote that the 2016 election was “sabotaged.”
But who has seen the proof? Have you?
We were told over and over that 17 agencies agreed on the assessment. That was a lie.”
This is exactly how we have, and still do look at this. THEY say, therefore it is. WE don’t buy it, and never have.
I agree. This morning on 970AM WFLA in Tampa, two millennial idiots were making the same case in trying to bash Trump by saying even the intelligence community all know that Russia colluded and he should have told Putin to stop. This is a normally conservative station, but these two idiots (who maybe are the new faces of this show) were filling in for Jack Harris, and recently retired Ted Webb who are both staunch conservatives. Many callers were calling in and not agreeing with these dopes, and the idiots were saying the callers were “conflating the issue” since they were bringing up McCain, since McCain was trashing Trump, and one of the jerks was making excuses for McCain saying “he is a Republican in good standing” but when a caller mentioned he should step down due to cancer and not having showed up to work since December 2017, the host was getting pissed thinking they were mocking McCain, and this guy was applauding the job of McCain, and poo pooing the fact he is incompetent.
Now even Trish Regan on Fox business has joined the warmongers, talk about mind control! They are crawling out of the woodwork like the worms they are when there is NO PROOF THAT RUSSIA INTERFERED.
Bunch of fools that want WWIII.
Since the US intelligence community assassinated JFK in a coup, they have left a trail of lies, blood, murder, dope smuggling, and sedition. They took down Nixon, foisted Bush on Reagan, elected Bush I, created the rise of Clinton, created Obama, tried to throw an election for Hillary. And they literally have switched sides and now support Al Qeida.
It’s un-American to support them anymore, and that does include the rank and file.
“Now even Trish Regan on Fox business has joined the warmongers, talk about mind control!”
There’s no mind to control there. She’s another beauty contest contestant, and a music major. So now we get to hear her wisdom on intelligence matters on a business network. Her main business experience was marrying a hedge fund guy.
Larry, Curley and Moe
What is with these strange spy/spook tales always involving some term taken from a song?
There was one a few year ago that referred to “Alice’s Restaurant”
And a couple recent ones, one to the Stones, etc...
Very peculiar.
So was that one where Mayor Daley conjured up ballots to help a presidential campaign but we got over it.
At one time tin foil would be the friend of some of these accusations but I now second guess everything this government has ever done since the Civil War. When you can't trust somebody; they lie once and on and on, nothing can ever be believed. I am not an anarchist by any stretch but I have learned to hate government more so than our Founders.
5 years ago I would have said you were nuts for posting that. Today I say I couldn’t agree more.
I think the pictures of the first 2 express perfectly why intelligence was lacking under the Obama administration, and the last one explains the lawlessness that was rampant within our borders. All 3 deserve a special place in Hades, and other humanly penalties while still inhabiting the earth.
He should trust them because that is what Romney, McCain, Jeb, Lindsey Graham, and the rest of the establishment would do. Accepting the terms dictated by the globalist left is the only way to get them to temporarily say nice things about you.
Shoot, 5 years ago I would have thought i was nuts to think that way.
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
I now clearly see a long train of abuses and usurpations...
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