Posted on 07/10/2018 5:32:34 PM PDT by BEJ
When is treason, treason? History shows us that coups to bring down an elected leader and his legitimate government in other countries are met with hanging... with DEATH.
But are we too civilized to hang anybody? What we do is keep the coup alive with the press and deep state, still attempting to bring down the leader. And the dishonest and clandestine means that had been used with the initial coup are still being employed.
The left cries about the fascist intolerance of the right when, in fact, the right tolerated the illegal attempt to take down a president. Nobody is locked up, nobody is in prison... and to make matters worse an honest president is under scrutiny for being disloyal while the real perpetrators of the coup enjoy perfect freedom.
Someday this will be looked upon as a farce. This just shows the power of the left to influence thought. Nobody is charged with sedition for fear of reprisals of the left, nobody is willing to dismiss the phony collusion case against Trump for fear of the power of the left. The left carries on with impunity -- convincing public opinion that Trump is a dictator, a Hitler... a tyrant that should be stopped by any means. But would a real dictator have tolerated this? Would a real dictator be as tolerant of the left and its members that had illegally tried to take him down as an elected leader and his government?
This is conspiracy so brazed that it carries on as if nothing has happened. To counter it will take a shift in public thinking... and then, perhaps, real justice will be met.
No I do not like it
It will take Congress to fix this BUT, if you read the history Congess has refused to touch it for 200 years.
Sedition unless it can be proven that the uniparty has been aiding and/or abetting the Norkies or Iraq. Then treason works, too, since we never have signed a peace treaty with either, IIRC.
someone selling their office to forign powers
WHEN is the hillary investigation going to seriously start?
It’ll rip the dem party ‘a new one’ - quite deservedly
Aiding and abetting that treason by leftist media — thats going to be a big one too.
Your #20:
> "Got schooled 2 weeks+ ago that SCOTUS ruled in the 50's that the Naturalization Oath was ceremonial only and not enforceable."
Of course and without question an Oath of Allegiance is an enforceable element in the context of criminal charges of treason. The point to understand is that a criminal charge of treason can only be pressed on traitorous citizens "owing allegiance" AS evidenced by 'Oath'. The federal statute on treason is here excerpted:
"18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason ...Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason"
The question is "who owes allegiance" and how is it evidenced? Anyone taking an Oath of Allegiance is subject to the federal statute for treason and that includes naturalized citizens.
"All naturalized citizens" who commit certain acts against the United States, are subject to the federal statute for treason.
In your #27, you changed the subject to the legality of stripping citizenship in matters of dual citizenship. Those SCOTUS rulings (Perez and Afoyim) had nothing to do with 'treason' which is the subject of this thread.
This fact will be compellingly demonstrated over the next two election cycles, IMHO, and if it isn't, then I'm absolutely convinced that we're staring civil war straight in the face—the real kind, with copious bloodshed...
Thanks, that is exactly my point.
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