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1 posted on 06/30/2018 12:20:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Cue the butt hurt SJWs demanding a name change.


2 posted on 06/30/2018 12:26:26 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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I like Indians. They are some sweet looking bikes.


3 posted on 06/30/2018 12:28:34 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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Smart marketing. Many people buy Harley’s because they are/ were? Made In USA. Now some will buy Indians instead.


4 posted on 06/30/2018 12:28:38 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( "Politicans aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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I read an article saying that Harley’s customer base was no longer in the US as much as foreign countries and that this was part of the reason for moving off shore. An aging American public and a general shift in feelings on safety and desire to ride motorcycles had reduced American demand. When I see people riding Harleys they do all appear to be much older people. According to the article, tariffs, currency exchange rates and local foreign protectionism drove Harley to move off shore. They started this move five years ago.


6 posted on 06/30/2018 12:31:23 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Great video. Thank you for sharing.


8 posted on 06/30/2018 12:34:11 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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Makes sense Harley would be trying something different to entice the younger crowd as its older customers quit riding from old age.

Polaris Indian better be doing the same thing in their own way too.

I do find it interesting Harley sales are up in Europe. I knew they were down in the USA.


11 posted on 06/30/2018 12:39:52 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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Three of the most American build brands of motorcycles:

(1) Indian.

(2) Victory.

The next one will surprise a lot of people.

(3) Honda. Seriously. Mostly made with US manufactured parts and mostly assembled in Marysville, Ohio and Lincoln, Alabama by American workers — who incidentally rejected the UAW’s attempt to unionize them.

Not sure about Harley — have seen conflicting reports.

This is based on the last time I looked into this. If I’m wrong, welcome a Freeper correction, but please be nice. I’m a sensitive guy. LOL


13 posted on 06/30/2018 12:44:21 PM PDT by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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Harley Davidson might be assembled in the USA but most of the parts are made overseas. Many in India. When you buy Harley you are paying for a name.

Lots of better bikes out there for half the money now days plus when I ride, everyone is looking at their damn phone and not the road.

Still not ready to sell my Springer Softtail yet though.

16 posted on 06/30/2018 12:49:55 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where is your bothers ElCamino ?)
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I thought Harley Davidson had been bought out by the employees. Why would an employee owned company shut down, and move out of the country?


20 posted on 06/30/2018 1:12:12 PM PDT by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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Harley-Davidson -builds- assembles engines in the U.S.

from what i can tell, they are made in Japan but assembled in the USA

https://www.throttlexbatteries.com/details.aspx?p=A4D3D61DCEB3C859&ppid=59924&beid=7BD67A6B7D0B565F

Where are Harley-Davidson motorcycles made?  A lot of people continue to ask us that question. Despite the common answer of "Milwaukee, WI", the real answer isn't that easy.

Harley-Davidson has four factories in the United States, none of which are in Milwaukee...


The original Milwaukee factory on Juneau Street is currently the company's corporate offices as well as the Harley-Davidson museum.

Technically speaking, Harley-Davidson motorcycles sold in the United States are not actually made here, but assembled here.  Harley contracts manufacturing of parts to plants located all over the world, including Germany, Italy, Taiwan, Japan, and Mexico.  Those parts are then shipped to Harley factories here.  And these are not just accessories, but components for engines, chassis, and wheels.  Exactly what percentage of a Harley-Davidson motorcycle is American made, is not exactly known, as each model and model year is different.

Back in 1929, Harley-Davidson contracted with a manufacturing plant in Hiroshina, Japan.  Rikuo Internal Combustion Company produced actual Harley-Davidson models that carried the Harley-Davidson label, for use by Japanese military and police.   Rikuo continued under contract until 1958.

Harley-Davidson motorcycles are also made in Manaus, Brazil.  The factory there opened in 1998 and continues to produce Harley models for the Brazilian market.

In 2011, the company announced plans to open a factory in India to produce the new Street 500 & 750 models.

Harley-Davidson has expressed interest in moving it's US-based factories overseas due to expensive employee costs.  The recession of 2008 caused the company's value to drop by 43% in 2009.  Harley's American rival, Polaris Industries, manufactures Indian and Victory motorcycles using an outside staffing service.

Harley-Davidson is also seeing a shift in the overall motorcycle demographic.  Riders are becoming younger.  The baby-boomer market that Harley had relied on is going away.  Younger riders tend to favor smaller motorcycles and place less importance on American-made products.

So, where are Harley-Davidson motorcycles made?  All over the world, actually.  But those sold in America, are assembled here in the United States, using a lot of foreign made parts.

At least for now, anyway.

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21 posted on 06/30/2018 1:12:31 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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22 posted on 06/30/2018 1:23:20 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen ((Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong))
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All this is going to do is increase the demand in Europe for Harleys made in the U.S. ROTFL.


26 posted on 06/30/2018 1:40:48 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't pass up the opportunity to use the Second Amendment today! IT'S FREE!)
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Geez, the bike and a Thompson...I'm in!
30 posted on 06/30/2018 1:58:15 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Ill keep my Victory, dont care for those injuns, and Harleys are too small.


35 posted on 06/30/2018 2:23:00 PM PDT by TexasM1A
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I saw an Indian 3 wheeler with bucket seats at a mall with a contest form. I filled out the form. It had bucket seats. I just now tried to find it and I can’t find anything that looks like what I saw.


36 posted on 06/30/2018 2:28:56 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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I have a 94’ Cow Glide and going to ride it until it can run no more. I looked at the Indians and really wanted one but if anything goes wrong I have to drive 300 miles to get it serviced. I have 2 Harley dealerships within fifty miles.


37 posted on 06/30/2018 2:29:20 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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Holy cow, they still make Indian motorcycles?


39 posted on 06/30/2018 2:31:23 PM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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I still remember watching one of the first Episodes of Then Came Bronson.

He had a Harley Sportster and decided to enter a Hill Climb contest.

Funny thing happened during the Hill Climb, his Harley turned into a Two Stroke Dirt Bike. Forget which brand, could have been a Husky.

I did see Evel Kineval jump a bunch of Cars at Ascot Raceway using a Harley though.


44 posted on 06/30/2018 2:53:16 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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Indian went out of business in 1953.

A number of companies and individuals have claimed the trademark over the years and marketed a variety of machines ranging from imported small bore dirt bikes to road bikes cobbled together from aftermarket reproductions of obsolete Harley-Davidson engines and frames and off the shelf custom parts. The current owner of the Indian trademark is Polaris, a manufacturer of snow machines (Snow mobiles).

Polaris acquired the iconic brand in 2011 and started printing stickers and logos (And stamping out the distinctive fully valanced fenders) which they affixed to the motorcycles they made. Polaris had been in the motorcycle business since 1998 when they acquired Victory motorcycles which they subsequently abandoned in favor of the Indian brand; the brand having been made so strong by the original Indian Motocycle Manufacturing Co of Springfield Mass in the fifty two years of its existence that the brand alone is enough to sell motorcycles made by a snow mobile company, even now more than sixty years after the demise of the company that actually built the reputation.


49 posted on 06/30/2018 3:16:12 PM PDT by Chuckster (There is no government solution to government corruption.)
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Part of the legend of Harley Davidson is IT IS AMERICAN MADE! If you move production overseas that legend dies. It will then become just another rice burner with great sounding pipes.

The Japanese make great bikes, but it aint a Harley and if built outside of the United States a Harley “aint a Harley.”


51 posted on 06/30/2018 3:35:13 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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