[2ndDivisionVet]

Going left-ward or just bad writing in general?

[BenLurkin]

Season one wasn’t disgusting enough for you?

[zeestephen]

Can I add to this list of unwatchable shows?

I just watched “Fear The Walking Dead.” It was the next to last episode for this season.

The plot, the writing, and the irrational decisions of the characters were so bad I almost turned it off.

I will watch the season finale, but only because I will always wonder what happened if I don’t. After next week, I am done.

[CJ Wolf]

Yes

[TTFlyer]

The most depraved, degenerate show ever got worse?

[mad_as_he$$]

I gave it up S2,E1.

[The Louiswu]

Try, The Expanse, watch it from the beginning. It’s very good

[sphinx]

The show has gotten confusing because it has too many timelines running simultaneously. In many scenes, it's difficult or impossible to tell flashbacks from real time. Initially this was interesting because it reflected the mental awakening of the androids which had "lived" hundreds or thousands of loops through the same scripted scenarios, and which are now recovering memories and acting autonomously. But carried to excess, it makes the show unwieldly and arbitrary. This has been compounded by the needless diversions through Edo period Japan and the British Raj. These are interesting locations and an opportunity to introduce new characters, but that's just narrative bloat. They are ultimately repetitive sideways detours to pad out Season Two. They do not move the plot.

The basic plot is pretty simple. Westworld is an AI-driven theme park run amuck. The androids are becoming conscious (the nature of consciousness being the Big Idea at the core of the show), and they are quite naturally revolting against their horrendous mistreatment. The now-conscious bots kill a lot of human guests and staff. The company, Delos, moves in with serious muscle to stamp out the revolt.

Unless the show jumps the shark with the Incredible Superpowers of Robots, Delos will very speedily restore order. Newly conscious AI samurai, western gunslingers and Indian servants from the British Raj cannot hope to outfight modern weaponry. The only real plot question is whether any of the woke bots will successfully integrate into human society (e.g. Bernard) or, alternatively, escape the island and go underground in the "real world."

Several of the bots are (or were, before their latest reprogramming) attractive characters who we would wish to survive. And several of the humans are clearly sympathetic to the bots. (They have yet to form an Underground Railroad, but that wouldn't surprise me.) There are some human interest plot lines that should be sorted out. But it's hard to see how the producers can get a worthy third season out of human-android romance and/or a bot breakout.

[SteveH]

I thought that he arrangement has been fairly good. However, I watch it mainly for escapist relaxation.

[Rockingham]

For now, at least, the philosophical and moral dimensions of the show’s premise are being submerged in sheer mayhem. A larger theme though has been made explicit: even as there are robots that yearn to become human, there are humans who want to become robots, at least in so far as the robots can be made immortal by transferring their basic personalities into new bodies. If coherent memories can be transferred as well, then an essential attribute for a continuity of consciousness has been achieved. This seems to be the purpose for the creation of Westworld: to establish the infrastructure and potential for a form of human immortality.

[Anti-Bubba182]

It is hard to care about the characters. I don’t buy a premise where the builders allow the the hosts to develop to the point where they rebel.

[CodeToad]

Then don’t watch it.

[sparklite2]

I liked the first season of Westworld. But this season is unwatchable. It’s boring and suitable for nothing more than background noise.

[wardaddy]

I like it but it’s a lot of storylines out there

They better not kill Thandie Newton

Delores in real life says we’re all sexists for not liking her turning into a killing machine

But I guess if you experience your family murdered and being gang raped and killed day in day out for 30 years you or me would be a mite angry too

It’s about human made immortality in the end

But the hosts are in rebellion so what to do

[catnipman]

totally agree. online commenters says there are five time lines,but i now could care less about trying to make any sense out of this hot steaming mess.

but it’s really worse than that. it’s pretty clear to me that the creators never expected there to be a second season, and everything that’s been done in season two has just been totally winging it, with no main narrative any more, and tons of filler tangents like Samurai World, India Tiger Hunt World, oh yeah, and TONS of machine gun battles, the same thing that did in Walking Dead. When writers run out of ideas and can’t think of anything else they either put a baby in the show or lots of machine gun battles. And of course even more ridiculous on WW is that dozens of supposedly highly equipped and trained para-military soldiers continuously get mowed down by three western-era robots. Oh, and why don’t said para-military guys have top-of-the-line body armor, a few squad automatic weapons, and a bunch of grenade launchers, anyway?

The other irritating thing is that no one ever stays dead, ranging from androids being resurrected to humans being simulated like Bernard/Arnold, James Delos, and now Ford himself.

I’m still watching it, but now skipping tons of BS, and the final kiss of death, I could care less about what happens to anybody on the show, except for maybe Ed Harris.

And I’m starting to laugh my ass off at scenes that are supposed to be sad, horrifying and emotive like Mae’s robot daughter being hunted down, which has already been established isn’t even her daughter. The over the top emotional music during that scene and many similar ones is just totally ridiculous, and adds to the many reasons to laugh at such scenes.

Finally, I’m not even trying to make sense of the show anymore because I don’t care anymore. Really still just watching to see if ANYTHING at all interesting is going to happen ...

[deadrock]

Season 1 was tremendous. This season seems to be tumbling out of control.