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Thinking the Unthinkable: What If Trump Succeeds?
The Politico ^ | May 2, 2018 | Jeff Greenfield

Posted on 05/02/2018 11:10:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Or, why the talks with Kim Jong Un are a test for Democrats.

Let us assume for the moment that Donald Trump is an “idiot” and a “f----ing moron” who hasn’t got a clue about the substance of legislation. (These judgments, if multiple news reports are accurate, come from the president’s current chief of staff, his former secretary of state and any number of Republican legislators, respectively). Let us draw from countless accounts of his conduct going back decades that the president is mendacious, graceless and a misogynist on steroids, whose character, temperament, historical cluelessness and utter incapacity for self-reflection make him by any measure the most unfit occupant of the White House ever.

Now: If you accepted these assumptions, how hard would it be to grant the president any credit for … anything? Could you embrace the old adage that “even a stopped clock is right twice a day”? Or would your wholesale revulsion at the president’s conduct simply make it impossible to accept even the possibility that he may have done something, anything, right?

In the wake of the head-snapping developments on the Korean Peninsula—North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and South Korean President Moon Jae-in shaking hands across the 38th parallel, talk of a formal end to the war 68 years after the armistice, a meeting between Kim and Trump—voices far removed from the circle of Trump admirers, such as former acting CIA Director Michael Morrell, and diplomatic correspondents for the New York Times and the Washington Post, have offered the president measured praise. One of the president’s toughest critics, Rep. Adam Schiff, offered this backhanded compliment:

“....more than fair to say that the combination of the president’s unpredictability and, indeed, his bellicosity had something to do with the North Koreans deciding to come to the table.”(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: democrats; korea; media; trump
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump measures success in a way that Obama or Hillary never could.


21 posted on 05/03/2018 3:00:46 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...if multiple news reports are accurate...

Stop right there.

22 posted on 05/03/2018 3:32:15 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: google,TWITTER,FACEBOOK,WaPo,Hollywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: Fhios
It’s not a complete given that the Dems will win the house but it is a likely outcome.

Why likely? Based on history? The last pubbie President, little shrub, bad as he was, did NOT lose the house in his first mid-term.

Until you do a seat by 435 seat analysis, it is not even likely nor bigly.

23 posted on 05/03/2018 3:45:39 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a great day that would be. America greater than ever.


24 posted on 05/03/2018 3:46:19 AM PDT by mulligan (EeThe)
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To: pepsionice

N-i-c-e wrap......very accurate insights, I would say.


25 posted on 05/03/2018 3:53:42 AM PDT by Liz ((Our side has 8 trillion bullets;the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.))
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To: pepsionice

Good post.

And the economy is recovering very well.

As Carville said in 1992, “It’s the economy, stupid!”


26 posted on 05/03/2018 3:54:50 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (If white privilege is real, why do we have millions of poor white people?)
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To: USS Alaska

Like I said. It’s not a given but it is likely.


27 posted on 05/03/2018 3:55:22 AM PDT by Fhios (Mr. Magoo, where are you?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would apparently be counterproductive for a Trump supporter to reveal one of the President’s most effective negotiating strategies. However, his opponents are so out of touch with reality that they can not accept the truth. Trump intentionally comes across as an “idiot” and a “f——ing moron.” He, in fact, is a genius. This is obvious to anyone willing to objectively look at the facts. The idiot Trump has made fools out of all the experts. A “f——ing moron” could not win the presidency even with media assistance.


28 posted on 05/03/2018 4:00:24 AM PDT by Vehmgericht ( stop)
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To: Candor7

The Muellet witch hunt will whimper to a close, having succeeded in its original design to protect the criminal Hillary Clinton.


The Clintons are not out of jeopardy yet.

I suspect there is a lot more going on behind the scenes then we know. It is all a matter of timing. President Trump is actually winning by allowing these fake investigations to continue. Just think how little we would know about the corruption in the DOJ and FBI if they had not forced an Independant Investigator on Trump.

President Trump’s policies appear to be working and his base is growing while the Democrats get weaker. I think the President will act when the time is right.


29 posted on 05/03/2018 4:17:36 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Lots of dems get neutered next week with IG Horowitz’ report. Mueller may decide its best to drop it quick.


30 posted on 05/03/2018 4:33:46 AM PDT by chiller (If liberals didn't have double standards, they'd have none at all.)
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To: Billthedrill
Preliminary indications aren't encouraging - they've spun the economic successes as belonging to somebody else and the stellar unemployment figures have been met with a resentful silence.

What success? All those newly employed people, especially blacks with their lowest unemployment rate ever, have less time to "find themselves". And the tax cuts are "crumbs", just a few thousand dollars per person. Who notices such a small amount? The democrats have chosen the perfect message, and I'm enjoying watching them stick with it.

31 posted on 05/03/2018 4:55:12 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“head-snapping developments”
I know what happened and my head hasn’t snapped.

The left would rather be burned alive than give Trump credit for anything. They have nothing but irrational hate. I hope that somebody puts something in the water in Stockholm and that Trump does get the Nobel Prize. Then liberal heads won’t be snapping — they’ll be exploding.


32 posted on 05/03/2018 5:47:50 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
...if multiple news reports are accurate... Stop right there.

You stopped there.

I stopped at the very first sentence:
Let us assume for the moment that Donald Trump is an “idiot” and a “f----ing moron” who hasn’t got a clue

Oh, I skimmed the rest of the pipe-dreamer's pabulum, but ceased to take any of it seriously because of its ridiculous premise from the get-go.

33 posted on 05/03/2018 5:50:56 AM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Leftists are constantly bleating out how stupid President Trumpnis while he is bitch-slapping them, taking their lunch, money, and ripping down the regulatory state. Sad.


34 posted on 05/03/2018 5:54:39 AM PDT by WMarshal (Molon Labe!)
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To: Vehmgericht

This is obvious to anyone willing to objectively look at the facts.


All Republican Presidents are “idiots” to the libs. We were told that G.W. Bush was a moron. The man flew a single-seat fighter jet. He might be many things, but I’m pretty sure fighter pilots can’t be morons.

How do these people imagine that President Trump grew his pretty large fortune? Stupid people can be rich, but usually stupid people don’t get rich, and certainly don’t get richer.


35 posted on 05/03/2018 7:20:24 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Fhios
If the Senate ties up I expect McCain’s last FU will be to switch parties before he dies.

Odds are he doesn't make it to next January...

36 posted on 05/03/2018 7:23:36 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Fhios

—it’s not a complete given that the Dems will win the house but it is a likely outcome.——

Oh’ BS

We may lose some congressional seats in the House, you actually think the american voter is going to make Nancy Pelosi Speaker of House?


37 posted on 05/03/2018 7:44:12 AM PDT by Popman (Wisdom is not what you know about the world but how well you know God. 8)
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To: Popman

“How old are you?” he replied sarcastically.


38 posted on 05/03/2018 8:05:39 AM PDT by Fhios (Mr. Magoo, where are you?)
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To: Fhios

How old am I ?

Not that is reverent to my post to you. I am 59 and been following politics for 35 years...

If you think the American people are going to put Pelosi as House Majority lrader in a mid term election,

Not going to happen...

Like I said, we will lose seats. 24 seats flipping to dems to turn the House is a mighty big hill to climb...


39 posted on 05/03/2018 8:38:45 AM PDT by Popman (Wisdom is not what you know about the world but how well you know God. 8)
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To: Paleo Conservative
According to the same polls that predicted Hillary would win in 2016.

So, it's really 58%?

40 posted on 05/03/2018 8:43:53 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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