Posted on 02/23/2018 6:40:51 AM PST by davikkm
President Trump tweeted on Thursday morning that the Congress should basically create a national gun registry, as he proposed something along the lines of “comprehensive background checks”, whatever that means. Here’s the tweet:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/966662241977360384
The thing is, this tweet can be interpreted in 2 ways. If you’re a leftist, you may argue that President Trump finally caved on gun control, and in the aftermath of the Florida high-school shooting he’s asking Congress to create a national gun registry and universal background check legislation, a measure pushed and lauded by the anti 2nd amendment left for years. It’s interesting that not even dear leader Barry Obama did not dare pass such a law, when the Democrats had total control over the US government, and it would be very weird for the Donald to do such a thing, that would alienate his fan base for ever, making him a one-term president. In case you’re not getting the part with the national gun registry, you should know that universal background checks cannot work sans a national gun registry. And following gun registration requirements, there’s just one small step to make, which inevitably leads to gun confiscation. The example is California, where universal background checks were followed immediately by registration requirements and then by gun confiscation legislation. Check out this tweet from the NRA about the gun-registry issue:
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We don’t need “better background checks.”
We need reporting agencies to actually report when somebody like this latest sicko commits crimes.
Doing “better background checks” on the law-abiding will yield nothing if data never gets entered for the non law-abiding.
He didn’t show up because the school never reported him, as a matter of policy.
You hope
There is a legal definition for mental illness just as there is for felony. If you've been adjudicated as mentally defective by a court and committed to a mental institution for your own protection and that of others, you're considered unfit to bear arms.
We already have laws in place to prevent such people from buying or possessing firearms. This is about enforcing laws that are already on the books and that almost everyone agrees with, not about creating new laws and restrictions.
“I’ll sign any bill you bring me”...
People still don’t get it.
This issue is driven by the voters. The American people are caving on gun control. The smart thing to do is to try to stop these incidents short of full fledged gun control. A lot of us were hoping that these incidents would not be repeated but they have been. You can’t just ignore them. I would start with the idea of trying to get control over these mental defectives.
That’s it. He lost me. Im staying home in 2020. Let Booker and Fauxcahantis win. S/
If “comprehensive background checks” means outlawing private sales, we are heading down the road to de facto registration.
Be careful here. It sounds good, but don't forget Obummers VA trying to say vets with PTSD should not possess weapons. They also tried to say all vets that had be en deployed suffered PTSD.
depending on how this goes, it can make trump a one term president.
It’s all gaslighting beltway theater. Don’t get your panties in a bunch just yet.
I think he’s just bs’ing around til the furor dies down
Any day now some new atrocity will occur to bump this off the news cycle.
POTUS always has a counter punch. Look at DACA. He stopped the Dems dead in their tracks. I’d expect something similar here. Like support for increased prison time for gun crimes which the Dems will never go for.
Wow...the political neophytes on this thread....sheesh.
Call or write you Senators and Representatives and turn up the heat!
I’ve noticed that Trump likes to offer the libtards the moon, very publicly. Then, he’ll quietly toss in just a couple of teeny weeny conditions at the last minute—just like Israel does with “Palestine”. Oh, yeah. One more little thing—you have to recognize Israel’s right to exist.
Trump does the same dems. Then, they reject his most generous, bipartisan, reasonable offer and end up looking like jerks.
It’s called a box, a stick, and a piece of cheese.
Let’s hope that’s what’s happening here.
How about just getting armed security that doesn’t run and hide when the gunfire starts!
There’s more to it. Understand Trump’s strategy/tactics.
Trump’s killer strategy vs the Left: offer them exactly what they ask for, in a way that makes them say “no” - thus showing they aren’t serious about the issue, and he gets their followers who actually do care about the issue.
Yes, most of us want to take an absolute hard-line stance on these issues. Don’t take the following as me wanting anything less than absolute refusal to give up anything we have.
Trump is a master of progressing where we would just stop & fight. He negotiates, offering things but getting everything.
Bump stocks: they’re not serious combat gear, they’re toys working around the machine gun ban. Few have them. It’s a battle we can lose, but we’ll make the Left pay dearly for it. It’s red meat for the ignorant public to chew on & get bored by. Remember - the BATFE (under Obama!) ruled bump stocks legal and _not_ machineguns; despite Trumps memo to research (nothing more!) banning them, the BATFE will have a very hard time objectively explaining, under current law, how that can be done. A ban will require actual legislation, which is unlikely (A) because of current Congress demographics, and (B) the extreme difficulty of objectively describing a “bump stock” in law given current context. If there’s going to be a fight over a gun category, let it be one that’s hard to lose and minimally problematic if we do.
Background checks: not much can happen here. We already have NICS, which could only be improved by compelling other agencies to contribute information - and they _really_ don’t want to; if they do, the “improvement” will be marginal. Private sales will be a hard sell: huge resistance, and horrible consequences for anyone in the chain of custody committing (even by accident) a paperwork violation; this would be followed by an enormous “F U” and a bazillion trades/sales just to screw up the system from the start. Mental health is the big one: there will be a huge push, UNTIL people realize that this will be an enormous HIPPA violation, there’s no good way to define _which_ mental illnesses warrant “no buy”, doctor-patient privilege is wrecked, and lots of people who genuinely need treatment will refuse it because they won’t know how they’ll be abused by the system.
Arming teachers: he wants to pay those willing to be armed. An acceptable solution, but creates more bureaucracy around gun ownership. The solution SHOULD be “there’s the 2nd Amendment, just let teachers carry”. The key is ending the horrible “gun free zone” law. I think paying teachers will backfire, as “he who pays the piper names the tune”, and schools are already (yes, always) screaming they don’t have enough money. At least here he can back down from “pay them” to “let the capable carry as they see fit”.
So what Trump is doing is taking a stance where he’s reaching Left, commandeering their issues, at which point the issues will either self-destruct (being not viable) or the Left will abandon & scuttle them (being absolutely imperative to oppose Trump, never work with him), or finally break down and actually start working with Trump and abandon their hard-line opposition-over-everything stance.
Wow...the political neophytes on this thread....sheesh.
No worries. The hand wringers are just playing their assigned part in this beltway drama. They help keep POTUS moored to the GOP base.
Nope
I will be strongly pushing Comprehensive Background Checks with an emphasis on Mental Health. Raise age to 21 and end sale of Bump Stocks! Congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue - I hope!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 22, 2018
“President Trump tweeted on Thursday morning that the Congress should basically create a national gun registry”
That is absolutely false. Read the tweet in post 39.
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