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She did not take medications because it was "too expensive" and died of "flu" less than a week later
eMaxHealth ^ | Feb 12 2018 | Armen Hareyan

Posted on 02/12/2018 5:44:03 PM PST by Armen Hareyan

Texas teacher named Heather Holland, aged 38, died of complications from the flu after she decided to give up medical treatment because she considered the 116 dollar Tamiflu "too expensive." The complications from flu-like disease led a 38-year-old teacher to the hospital where she died after a septic shock. The cost of the medicine that was prescribed is $116.

Heather Holland, of Weatherford, Texas, reportedly fell ill last Monday and two days later was diagnosed with the flu. According to Fox News, doctors prescribed Tamiflu, an antiviral drug that costs approximately $116.

However, according to a statement by Holland's husband...

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To: Armen Hareyan

I’ve had the flu more than once. I’ve never taken Tamiflu. If I had it again, would I take Tamiflu? Not likely. Would I even go to the doctor? Not likely unless I thought I had pneumonia.


81 posted on 02/12/2018 8:28:15 PM PST by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: Brilliant

>> I thought Obamacare was supposed to fix this.

Before the ACA, I was paying 1050/month, 600/1200 deductibles, discounted generic meds, $20 copay office visits, $50 copay specialist visit.

Today, I’m paying 1400/month, 7500/15,000 deductibles, full price on everything until $15k deductible is met.

That’s Obamacare fix the Democrat Thug Party created. And the scumbags boast they “saved” my family.


82 posted on 02/12/2018 8:32:00 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Armen Hareyan

>> 2nd: Do you think a flu medication should cost 116 dollars?

For families paying $18k/year for health insurance, there should be a copay.


83 posted on 02/12/2018 8:34:14 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: cherry
Actually, Tamiflu does, within 24 hours, impact all of your symptoms, lessening them. The virus still exists, but can’t effectively multiply. It lessens the total length of the flu by a bit over half a day, but your body can get ahead of the symptom production almost right away.

I’ve noticed this on myself and the new doctor my wife saw freely said the same to her, without my prompting.

84 posted on 02/12/2018 8:40:59 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Armen Hareyan

Reading all the comments on here... and it’s ridiculous to be discussing her “lack of wisdom” in not paying for the med. These comments assume that it is effective. Tamiflu is practically worthless. It would not have saved her life. Has anyone else bothered to read the studies on it??? Take vitamin D and zinc and you’ll be far better off.


85 posted on 02/12/2018 8:42:54 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Karoo
A teacher is a state gov’t worker. They have good insurance.

Used to have good insurance, after Obama the premiums in our district skyrocketed. To cover a family of four it now costs over $1000 a month with a deductible of $5000. That's a quarter of the take home pay.

86 posted on 02/12/2018 9:03:38 PM PST by Smittie (Just like an alien I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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To: Armen Hareyan
...Do you think a flu medication should cost 116 dollars?

Well, you have a choice.

A. It can cost $116 and be available whenever you need it and can pay, or

B. It can cost $10, but not ever be found in the pharmacy because making & selling it loses money.

Just to help you with your decision, in Venezeula they have chosen B for most goods.

87 posted on 02/12/2018 9:22:22 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: rlmorel
...We have people posting crazy articles here saying tens of thousands of people are dying and the government is hiding it...

Current US population is 327 million. Life expectancy is nearly 79. That means approx 4 million people die each year. Just about 80,000 per week.

If someone is at death's door and catches the flu, the death will be blamed on the flu, even if they only had 2 more weeks without the flu...

88 posted on 02/12/2018 9:30:21 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Armen Hareyan

Had the flew 3 weeks ago. 104 temp 2nd day. Didn’t move for 4 days. Miserable. I can afford the cost of Tamiflu and the Dr copay. Just didn’t want to move much less get dressed and go somewhere. It was brutal. Sickest I’ve ever been.

Knew people were dropping from the flu more than normal so I force fed myself and drank massive amounts of fluids. In retrospect I should have gone to the Dr.

Condolences to that fam.


89 posted on 02/12/2018 10:13:14 PM PST by JohnC2004
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To: Abby4116
Thanks for posting that. Something like that happened to my brother, a few years ago. Years of smoking certainly did not help. He ended up with necrotic pneumonia that severely damaged his lungs, nearly killing him. He still has much diminished lung capacity, although rehab and switching to e-cigs helped. (He just can't seem to completely quit with the cigs, but then he has always displayed some addictive behaviors: "I have to have some Coca-Cola.")

In my own case(non-smoker, in my 60's) over the years I have occasionally had what I thought was just a bad head cold, but the last 10 years or so, I seem to get that and then follow up moderate lung congestion* that is just a devil to get completely rid of -- it slowly goes away over a period of up to a month. *The congestion is not enough to make me think I need to see a Dr., but it is annoying, tiring, and does slow me down a bit. Is it possible those were not "colds" and I was suffering from some sort of mild pneumonia afterward?

90 posted on 02/12/2018 10:17:45 PM PST by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: Wiz-Nerd

Golly, at least 30-40% of the people my wife and I know have had something “more than” just a cold. Granted that I think there are a whole variety of respiratory bugs about - not just flu.


91 posted on 02/12/2018 10:48:53 PM PST by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: Armen Hareyan

What did doctors prescribe before there was Tamiflu?


92 posted on 02/13/2018 1:32:08 AM PST by clearcarbon
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To: Armen Hareyan

I had this flu the second week of January. I wanted to die. There we’re three days where I remember nothing. I slept. Awful.


93 posted on 02/13/2018 2:36:52 AM PST by lucky american (Progressives are attac Iking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

She probably spent her last $1,000 on a new iPhone.


94 posted on 02/13/2018 3:47:04 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: Armen Hareyan

She had insurance. A lot of insurance plans regard Tamiflu as a Tier 2 drug, IOW you pay the co-pay, not all of it out of pocket unless there’s an issue with a deductible.


95 posted on 02/13/2018 3:52:51 AM PST by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: ConservativeMind

There’s a good chance that the doctor prescribed Tamiflu, rather then the less costly generic, because he gets kickbacks from the drug maker.

http://www.fda.news/2017-03-08-65-of-doctors-are-getting-cash-kickbacks-from-big-pharma.html


96 posted on 02/13/2018 4:07:28 AM PST by zencycler
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To: Armen Hareyan
I have 2 questions to ask everyone.

I have a couple of my own:

As a teacher, doesn't she have insurance? If her husband works, doesn't he have insurance?

For whatever reasons, she made the choice to not take the flu shot so blaming her death on the prohibitive cost of the drug is ridiculous

97 posted on 02/13/2018 4:14:42 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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To: Armen Hareyan

Keep hearing it’s the worst in a long time and have seen a lot of folks with some nasty stuff that has turned into pneumonia, but Tamiflu seems to be reasonable when one measure the value of one’s life - plus there are cheaper versions of it if the “doctors” would prescribe the generics...Both the wife and I had something that lasted a couple weeks and we spent close to $116.00 on OTC symptom relievers (lots of Mucinex to keep the lungs clear and other ache/pain relievers) because pneumonia is a natural follow-on to many illnesses and ends up being the killer if one doesn’t take proper precautions.


98 posted on 02/13/2018 4:17:29 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...;-})
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To: Hot Tabasco

She could have been a private (for example, catholic grammar school) school. They have crappy insurance if they have it at all.

But, if a person cannot come up with $116 for Tamiflu, they should be on Medicare/Medicaid.

People who do not advocate for themselves will find themselves dead.

Plus...there is not a hospital in the country that would have turned her away in an unstable condition.


99 posted on 02/13/2018 4:18:19 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: Calvin Locke

The flu causes septic shock by settling in the lungs. It then infects the blood system.

It is akin to getting septic shock from something like a urinary tract infection (probably the most common cause.)

One does not usually get that kind of infection at a hospital. Staph and MRSA are the common hospital killers.


100 posted on 02/13/2018 4:20:06 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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