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She did not take medications because it was "too expensive" and died of "flu" less than a week later
eMaxHealth ^ | Feb 12 2018 | Armen Hareyan

Posted on 02/12/2018 5:44:03 PM PST by Armen Hareyan

Texas teacher named Heather Holland, aged 38, died of complications from the flu after she decided to give up medical treatment because she considered the 116 dollar Tamiflu "too expensive." The complications from flu-like disease led a 38-year-old teacher to the hospital where she died after a septic shock. The cost of the medicine that was prescribed is $116.

Heather Holland, of Weatherford, Texas, reportedly fell ill last Monday and two days later was diagnosed with the flu. According to Fox News, doctors prescribed Tamiflu, an antiviral drug that costs approximately $116.

However, according to a statement by Holland's husband...

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KEYWORDS: blogpimp; blogtroll; flogthatblog; flu; fluepidemic; illness; medicine; pimpmyblog; tamiflu
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Starting pay for a teacher in this school district is $48,000! Weatherford, TX Schools Compensation Plan
61 posted on 02/12/2018 7:20:03 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: Calvin Locke

Several people in Texas have died of Septic shock after the flu turned into pneumonia. One man lost his feet and some fingers. Really scary.


62 posted on 02/12/2018 7:21:40 PM PST by dandiegirl (BO)
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To: ConservativeMind

Hahahahahaha if you think drug prices have anything to do with basic market forces you are beyond naive. Very few people pay out of pocket for their drugs... Medicare reimbursement drives the cost of EVERYTHING... yes even private insurance.

Health care is driven by regulatory forces not economic forces


63 posted on 02/12/2018 7:22:27 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Your more than welcome. You weren't being snarky, and I totally understand your points, which I don't disagree with at all.
64 posted on 02/12/2018 7:23:53 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: Armen Hareyan
I do think the flu is far worse, I think more people are getting it and it seems like more are dying. My husband has not been diagnosed with the flu but has had pneumonia twice this winter. Whatever we had that was not diagnosed as the flu was terrible and knocked both of us off our feet- then he got pneumonia after...and his pneumonia was supposedly cured by meds and then it came back or he got it again. So the people they are not diagnosing with the flu- I think many of them have the flu! Possibly a different strain than they are testing for or something odd.

I do not think flu medication should cost $116...but the article said that was her copay. I looked it up and found the price at Walmart without insurance is $117. So possibly her insurance was not willing to pay any of that prescription? Teachers generally had good insurance but who knows since the dims have that so messed up! Tamiflu was developed in the United States, yet I hear it is half the cost in Mexico. That infuriates me!

Tamiflu is covered by many insurance plans as a Tier 2 drug, meaning a moderately high copay. A course of the 75 mg twice daily dose (10 capsules) will run about $110 – $120 if you are paying out of pocket.

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/ten-things-you-may-not-know-about-tamiflu/

65 posted on 02/12/2018 7:28:28 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: Armen Hareyan

Economic Darwinism.


66 posted on 02/12/2018 7:40:23 PM PST by wgmalabama (The government murdered Robert LaVoy Finicum - what makes you think you are not next?)
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To: punknpuss

We have people posting crazy articles here saying tens of thousands of people are dying and the government is hiding it.

It is embarrassing. But hey, some people gotta have their boogeyman.

As for this...sad she died. But some people want to turn this into a Big Pharm bashing thread.

It’s either they don’t work, or aren’t worth the money. Fine. I would say to them whatever you like. Don’t buy them or don’t take them and drink ground up leaves of some kind. I won’t judge you on it.

But don’t bitch when you get compromised for life or die.


67 posted on 02/12/2018 7:46:43 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette)
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To: frogjerk

Well, she probably thought that she could recover without the medication. A hunch that cost her her life


68 posted on 02/12/2018 7:49:21 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I'm interested in the septic shock aspect. How did that happen?

My first thought as well.

69 posted on 02/12/2018 7:50:54 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Theodore R.
Well, she probably thought that she could recover without the medication. A hunch that cost her her life

Several studies seem to indicate that Tamiflu is virtually worthless. According to wikipedia, the risks to healthy people outweigh it's benefits.

It might not have helped her at all.

70 posted on 02/12/2018 8:03:34 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Armen Hareyan

Tamiflu is worthless anyway. In the BEST of cases it MIGHT reduce flu symptoms by one day IF it is taken in 24 hours. I know people who took it and it made them sicker than the flu.


71 posted on 02/12/2018 8:04:30 PM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Armen Hareyan

Tamiflu is nearly worthless anyway: it does NOT cure the flu! According to the official FDA prescribing information, in the BEST of cases it MIGHT reduce flu symptoms by one day IF it is taken within 24 hours of the first flu symptoms, and the side-effect profile is horrendous. I know people who took it and it made them sicker than the flu, and they swore they would never take it again.

People are dying because their immune system overreacts, and their only shot at survival is to be hospitalized right away and pumped full of corticosteroids to suppress the virulent overreaction of their immune system.

this is a totally bogus sob-story article, trying to blame lack of Tamiflu for her death.


72 posted on 02/12/2018 8:13:36 PM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Armen Hareyan
Sepsis WILL kill you very quickly if not treated with strong IV antibiotics. My husband has had it three different times. The first time he almost died even while in the emergency room of a major trauma center hospital.

By the second and third time he had it I recognized the symptoms and got him to the hospital before he became critical.

73 posted on 02/12/2018 8:13:45 PM PST by Texan
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To: frogjerk

“Does Tamiflu actually work and is your life worth more than 116 dollars?”

No. and No.

Tamiflu is nearly worthless: it does NOT cure the flu! According to the official FDA prescribing information, in the BEST of cases it MIGHT reduce flu symptoms by one day IF it is taken within 24 hours of the first flu symptoms, and the side-effect profile is horrendous. I know people who took it and it made them sicker than the flu, and they swore they would never take it again.

People are dying because their immune system overreacts, and their only shot at survival is to be hospitalized right away and pumped full of corticosteroids to suppress the virulent overreaction of their immune system.

this is a totally bogus sob-story article, trying to blame lack of Tamiflu for her death.


74 posted on 02/12/2018 8:14:24 PM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Armen Hareyan
Do you think a flu medication should cost 116 dollars?

1 . How much is your life worth to you.

2. How much did you spend on coffee/beer/bottled water last year?

75 posted on 02/12/2018 8:14:41 PM PST by PAR35
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To: ConservativeMind
Tamiflu does nothing but shorten your flu episode perhaps by 24 hrs...IT IS NOT A CURE....

can't imagine how much money the pharms have made on this drug alone, and its pushed like its a panacea....

this woman I suspect was very sick to begin with and in her weakened state, caught the flu as well....

somebody missed something though...

76 posted on 02/12/2018 8:16:57 PM PST by cherry
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To: freeandfreezing
nearly $50000 for 10 months but all added in, teachers work the equivalent of HALF a year...not bad pay and bennies...

its very very sad she passed away , at her age, with her young children...I don't blame her at all....Tamiflu is not a cure....

something else was going on with her....

77 posted on 02/12/2018 8:19:27 PM PST by cherry
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To: Armen Hareyan

1. Yes, it is bad.
2. I pay that much for my son’s inhalers.
3. What was her phone bill / Netflix bill / other frittered away expenses per month?


78 posted on 02/12/2018 8:23:03 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Wiz-Nerd

Was just at doc in box with my son with suspected flu. They were packed with mostly respiratory viruses. My son was chatting with a friend who had the same thing.
Went to the pharmacy. They were out of Tamiflu.
Yes, it is hard at least where we are.
A third of one of my daughter’s classes is empty because of this.


79 posted on 02/12/2018 8:25:42 PM PST by tbw2
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To: rlmorel

I hate that she made the wrong decision for her family and herself. It’s not the fault of the pharmaceutical company. They are in it for the money. Every business is in it for the money and there’s nothing wrong with that. She was in charge of her life. She just made a poor decision. Sick people sometimes make very poor decisions because they are sick and feverish.


80 posted on 02/12/2018 8:26:17 PM PST by punknpuss
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