Posted on 01/04/2018 8:03:37 AM PST by MNDude
Rey, on the other hand, never encounters failure. In “The Last Jedi,” instead of being instructed by a wise sage, Luke, in the tradition of the mythic hero, it is she who teaches him. Luke is thus deprived of the opportunity to pass from the warrior-hero into the mentor-teacher. At the end he is still impetuous, still myopic, still being lectured by Yoda. But Rey—she’s perfect. As Yoda tells Luke as the last Jedi archive burns, there is nothing in “those books that the girl does not already possess. In other words, she does not need the lessons of the past or a mentor to guide her. She already knows because she’s empowered. You go, girl! But beyond her inauthenticity as a masculine hero, Rey’s perfection and her cross-dressing deprive the film of another crucial element: a romance.
There are no princesses to rescue in the new “Star Wars.” There is no need for the traditional heroic story of the triumph of good over evil ending in love and children. It is in romance that the masculine and feminine hero journeys unify, resulting in new life. By making Rey a female character in a male role, the movie reveals its own contempt for life-giving femininity and its symbiotic relationship to strong masculinity.
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I think that I saw that show! Was it on Channel 4, at 8:00 p.m.? Did it have that annoying detergent commercial just before the end credits?
Regards,
I was it in Mexico so I didn’t understand the dialog much. I noted that the women except for Rey were all very unattractive.
It was obvious where this is going.
People line up to watch this PC crap and buy Star Wars crap.
Hitler thought it sucked too.
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#42 because they were democrats.
Maybe Laura Dern is friends with mobsters who lined up the financing for Disney to buy LucasFilm.
Impossible to shake the impression that she was stuck so awkwardly into the movie simply as part of a mob pay-off.
Just my opinions of course.
Merchandising, Merchandising, where the real money from the movie is made.
That makes it only marginally better. (But consider: Luke didn't know that Rey had already taken the books, so he must have thought that Yoda was speaking literally - but didn't object! That is tantamount to Luke replying, "Yes, she is indeed all-knowing, Master Yoda!")
Remember, Rey got only "three easy lessons" from a reluctant master (Luke) before leaving "Ah-Tschoo." (Actually, not even three full lessons - during the third, she causes a friggin' earthquake with her awesome psychic powers and friggin' blows Luke's mind.) Compare that with the (perhaps) weeks of brutal training Luke got from Yoda on Dagobah, after which Yoda said that he was still not ready.
Can you imagine Luke arriving on Dagobah, Yoda unwillingly giving him a few lackluster lessons, and shortly thereafter sending him off with a memory stick containing all of the Jedi sacred scrolls, saying that was all that he needed?
Rey was an obvious "Mary Sue" - And in my opinion, the hallmark of a "Mary Sue" is not that she is all-powerful and perfect, it's that everyone who meets her is impressed and/or falls in love with her almost immediately.
Compare that with all the verbal abuse Luke got from Han, Leia, etc. upon first meeting them.
Regards,
I'm confused...
Wasn't the whole backstory of her life one of failure? Wasn't she abandoned by her parents to a life of scavenging on a desert planet, constantly being cheated by the local merchant?
It wasn't until the droid showed up that her life circumstance began to change. The part of her life that we see in the movie is what, only a few weeks/months in duration, versus her whole life of failure on a desert planet?
Yoda tells Luke as the last Jedi archive burns, there is nothing in “those books that the girl does not already possess.
Could this simply mean that she always maintained a sense of integrity, nobility, and fortitude, amongst the strife, and never wavered or cracked under the pressure to survive?
-PJ
Haven't you heard? According to the femnazis and LGBTq communities; all women are now lesbians (or at least bisexual) free to explore any behavior with nothing out of bounds. It's their new religion don'tchaknow.
I guess the lezzies needed a much larger pool of potential sex partners to infect.
-PJ
I know Adam Driver is a Marine, but dude you are the gayest jedi ever. I wonder if he hangs out with wide ride Lena Dunham in real life, lol.
Yes, you are confused.
Those things that happened to Rey up to the beginning of "The Force Awakens" happened to her. She bore no guilt for them. They were not her fault. They were not due to some "weakness" in her moral make-up or lack of "moral fiber."
Rather, she was a "victim." A noble victim of other peoples' evilness, short-sightedness, etc.
The fact that she had been able to survive - heck: thrive - despite constantly suffering such hardships imposed from without is merely further evidence of her specialness, verstehst?
Compare her backstory with Luke's - a whining farmboy still being bossed around by his overbearing uncle, still telling transparent little "fibs" like "going to Toshi station to pick up some power converters" - and getting immediately called out on it by his uncle! Being tricked by a droid (R2D2) into removing its security bolt, going to look for the missing droid, getting mugged by a friggin' "Sand Person," and having his other droid (C3PO) torn apart by same. Finding the moral stength to join the Rebellion only after seeing the charred and still smouldering corpses of this aunt and uncle.
What a loser!
Compare and contrast that with Rey! Ridiculous!
Regards,
I wouldn’t over analyze this flick. It is, after all, just a flick, even if the Star Wars fanboys see it as much more. It is a lousy movie, overlong,way too CGI driven and with a plot that meandered along pointless arcs only to wind up back at the beginning. I saw it yes, but would not bother with it again and it marks the end of Star Wars for me.
Went to see it NYE with some friends. All through the movie, something just seemed missing. All “Disneyfied” (well, since Walt passed) complete with furry little creatures who added nothing to the film but will be good merchandising tie-ins. My wife commented to me that the opening sequences were confusing, and I have to admit that, Star Wars geek that I am, I was as well.
More than a few times, I kept thinking of the signature line of the past 8 movies: “I have a bad feeling about this”. In the end, I felt vindicated in my assessment. As bad as “The Phantom Menace” or “Revenge of the Sith” may have been, they were head, shoulders and chest above this one. Heck, this one made “The Force Awakens” look passable!
Oh, well, at my age, I go for the reduced rates, so it was only $8 out the window instead of $12 or more.
I would say that the most compelling character is Kylo Ren. Rey, Poe, Finn, the Asian woman whose name I can’t even remember, Laura Dern (who looked horrible BTW)... They were all so .... meh. Ren and the Bendicio del Toro character.... I felt bad for Mark Hamill. Okay, he’s no Laurence Olivier, but he was really given some bad lines, so bad that no actor could have carried them off. I’m sure he’s glad, along with Harrison Ford, to be done with it.
-PJ
Can't say.
Can only say that Luke apparently thought that Yoda was being literal when he said it - and Luke didn't object, effectively aligning himself with that interpretation.
Regards,
Because poe is the new lovable rascal. Everyone loves him for his mischievous disobedience. His heart is pure. Dontyakno?
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