OC a really spiffy looking water pistol filled with lead so it "feels" like a real pistol when some dipstick grabs it.
Then show dumbass the REAL one that has
I personally prefer to be the only one (except the Wife) that knows I'm CCW.
Posted on 01/03/2018 12:53:04 PM PST by PROCON
There’s a lot of debate that takes place around the idea of open carry. Many argue that open carry is tactically stupid as it makes it clear to any potential bad guy who to take out first during a robbery. Others counter with arguments about how open carry initiates conversations about the Second Amendment and our right to keep and bear arms.
Both are good points, but for one open carrier in Fayetteville, NC, open carry isn’t such a grand thing these days.
An incident involving a stolen gun caused a commotion at Walmart on Skibo Road on Thursday afternoon.
About 3 p.m., Fayetteville police spokeswoman Asia Cannon said, inaccurate information based on radio scanner traffic began circulating about a shooting at the Walmart. Officers arrived and discovered that a man had grabbed a gun off another man who was open-carrying the weapon. The man who grabbed the gun then ran off.
Someone then yelled out about a gun in the store, which then caused some kind of commotion, though no one was injured.
Of course, this illustrates one of the main problems with open carry. Besides freaking out the uninitiated citizen, it also makes yourself a target for crap like this.
To be sure, there are things you can do to mitigate this kind of thing. First, look at your holster and see how easily it is to draw from someone else’s hip. I’ve found that some holsters are very easy to draw from when they’re no your hip, but not so much when they’re on someone else’s.
Also, look at learning some weapon retention techniques. These are, in my opinion, a good idea for anyone who is carrying a firearm, whether open or concealed. The last thing you want is for your decision to rely solely on stealth to come back and bite you in the rear should someone figure out you’re packing.
That said, stealth–in other words, carrying concealed–is the best way in which to carry as a general rule. If you want to make a statement, that’s fine, but don’t expect anyone to listen to you when they’re concerned about the heater on your hip. Some will, but a lot more won’t.
But if you’re serious about protecting yourself and others with a firearm, carry it concealed. Doing so means that not only will you minimize your chances of being murder target number one in the event of a robbery, but you’ll also help make sure that you actually have your gun at that key moment, rather than having lost it to some schmuck in a local Walmart who snatched it and ran off.
Folks, if we want to be considered responsible gun owners, we need to act like it. That means not advertising what we have so would-be thieves like this can grab a hold of our weapons and run for the hills. The last thing any of us want is to help arm criminals, but just what do you think happened with this weapon?
Learn from this, just as I am, and let’s make this the last such incident.
I prefer remaining innocuous and just blending into the crowd, but keeping an eye out for trouble.
I’ve never heard of it. Heard of police losing their guns in a scuffle, but not a private person. There was a case last year where the person was robbed of their OC gun at gun point. A grab and run seems pretty risky from the criminals perspective. Certainly rare enough.
I tend to prefer that too. But when someone does notice you and tries to “test” you, either with a look or with words, it’s good to give the impression that you won’t be easy. It works!
Absolutely! The more the better. Zero calories!
Not really. Typical Virginia OC is a medium frame semiauto or wheel gun on the hip. Most people don’t even notice. And those that do don’t care.
Yup, just "winging" them or a leg shot has worked best for me. :-)
A few have said they’ve heard of it but admit that it’s rare. Banglist threads are one of my favorite subjects here and in 17 years this is the first story I have seen about OC gun-grabbing.
A man could drive himself nuts worrying about every possibility under the sun. However you choose to carry a firearm take it as a serious responsibility and otherwise keep the worry to a minimum.
A level 3 retention holster (or better). In which case, your ability to quickly draw your own weapon is limited as well.
LOL
How do you know most people don’t notice and the one’s that do don’t care?
Not surprised. Once you get outside of the NORVA/tidewater idiot belt, Virginia is downright pleasant.
First thought also.
Secondly, some may have the right but have no capacity to apply open carry.
The bang list is one of my favorites as well. Especially the open carry threads. I hear all sorts of interesting legends. My favorite to date was one where a poster noted that the police in X Virginia city would do horrible things to those who had the temerity to OC in that city. As luck would have it, I had OC’d that same day in that city and walked past a police officer. And usual, nothing happened.
I don’t do a survey when I OC if that’s what you’re asking. But I can see where people are looking, their body language and reactions. People don’t move away from me when I OC, nor gather up their children in terror, nor do they complain to the management of the store or venue I’m at. So I have the conclude that if people notice or really care, they’re doing a great job of keeping that to themselves.
I like the Blackhawk Serpa for my SIG 229. I use a shoulder rig foy my Glock mod 20 and my S&W 629.
“Open carry is fine as long as you understand the possibilities. That’s why we CC.”
Open carry an empty gun, while CCing your regular weapon. :)
First encountered a Denver PD Sgt in 1993 wearing a SW Mod 19 in a cross draw rig when I was working Technical Security Division for Secret Service. Asked him if he was worried about weapon retention wearing a cross draw rig. We walked in a close room alone, he drew the weapon unloaded it, let me check it to show it was clear and he holstered it...... He then invited me to take it from him and shoot him..... I declined so he drew the unloaded weapon and handed it to me and said “pull the trigger” ...... when I went to open the cylinder to be sure it was safe, I could not open the cylinder. He took it and opened the cylinder, showed me it was clear and closed the cylinder and said just dry fire it ...... couldn’t pull the trigger, couldn’t cock the trigger or open the cylinder. He took it back and dry fired it rapidly, cocked the hammer 2 or 3 times and opened the cylinder again . Now in my duuuuuhhhh moment explained the magatrigger design. On one hand he had a academy ring and the other his wedding ring ..... the magnets were embedded in his jewelry. His revolver was able to be used by either hand and by him only.
I had two of my revolvers on the way for the modification a week later. Still have em. A SW model 13-3 and a SW Model 37 Airweight ........ At least 2000 rounds through each over the years of 158gr LHPWC Federal ...... still works flawless.
I highly suggest at least one revolver be modified if ya can. I like em.
I have a Blackhawk Serpa for my sig too. But, a Serpa retention holster is the kind that you must be careful with. There is a history of people shooting their foot. You have to press the release with your finger and if you keep pressing after the pistol has cleared the holster (easy to do) your finger will go right into the trigger guard. From there it's easy to accidentally pull the trigger and shot off your big toe.
Hmmm. I can see how that might be an issue for some. Constant practice of the draw puts my finger along the length of the slide, not inside the trigger guard.
OC a really spiffy looking water pistol filled with lead so it "feels" like a real pistol when some dipstick grabs it.
Then show dumbass the REAL one that has
I personally prefer to be the only one (except the Wife) that knows I'm CCW.
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