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Making Sense of the Sixties "documentary" [BARF alert]
thoughtmaybe ^

Posted on 01/01/2018 11:30:04 AM PST by otness_e

Making Sense of the Sixties is a six part series analysing certain facets of the social and political upheaval of the 1960s and beyond in the United States. The series chronologically examines the cultural and political changes which shaped the era and left an indelible mark on later decades. From the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King; to the rapidly escalating atrocities in Vietnam; to the height of the Cold War and the Space Race, Making Sense of the Sixties weaves historical retrospect with the experiences of ordinary people to capture the mood and mindset of the era.

(Excerpt) Read more at thoughtmaybe.com ...


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 1950s; 1960s; antiwar; counterculture; davidhoffman; hippies; propaganda; vietnamwar
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Back in 1991, there was a six-part documentary made by David Hoffman that tried to justify the 1960s and explain the events, obviously from a leftward view (and I don't mean left-of-center, obviously). I'm actually a bit surprised FreeRepublic hadn't already covered it, considering it's being shown in History departments at various colleges (I'd know, my Spring Freshman semester year at Georgia Perimeter College had my History class showing part of the first episode). One thing I should comment, though: Considering my Dad was a kid during the 1950s and I asked him of what's going on during that time, he doubted their claims about what life in the fifties were like (namely, the idea that people had to obey their authority figures without any question whatsoever and were essentially drones to their family), I really find their views pretty much a load of crap to put it mildly (and besides, those "Stultifying" four rules they listed were actually pretty reasonable. Certainly a lot more reasonable than some of the scare tactics used in school right now that if anything make a whole lot of us downright neurotic, like claiming that you will get skin cancer just from mowing the lawn.). Also, one of the people interviewed (the one who was a flight attendant for several years) made it seem as though women weren't allowed into the medical professions or science professions at all. Isn't nursing (and by extension, air stewardess, her explicit profession) a medical profession and requiring medical and scientific training? I find that claim hard to believe, that she was barred from the medical community. And honestly, I think the fact that the education system thinks THOSE are good videos to teach our children about America's history ultimately speaks ill of that institution. They have condemnations of Vietnam (and this is from the same guy who claimed he became more patriotic to America after seeing the Vietcong flags among the anti-war protestors).

I realize the linked page is of the radical left, but it's the only place barring YouTube that has the full episodes on there. Either way, I don't endorse their claims, nor am I trying to promote their views. Quite the opposite, I'm placing this link for the videos, which are pretty much propaganda films, as exposure of what kids are being taught these days (and I'd know, since, again, my Freshman Year in Spring 2010 had that). A side note, but that series was released while I was a one year old.

1 posted on 01/01/2018 11:30:05 AM PST by otness_e
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To: otness_e

Imagine how different things would have been had somebody killed baby Bill Ayers and baby Bernadine Dohrn.


2 posted on 01/01/2018 11:34:28 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: otness_e
rapidly escalating atrocities in Vietnam

Referring to how the Viet Cong buried civilians alive in Hue, right?

3 posted on 01/01/2018 11:36:14 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

At least the music was good.


4 posted on 01/01/2018 11:37:17 AM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: otness_e

Through the haze.


5 posted on 01/01/2018 11:38:01 AM PST by onedoug
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Or at the very least sent them to get much needed help at a psyche ward.


6 posted on 01/01/2018 11:40:48 AM PST by otness_e
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Sex, drugs, and rock and roll. Pretty much the legacy of the sixties. Leading to legalized abortion and the dumbing down of the next generation. Yes, the music was good (for some of us). IMHO


7 posted on 01/01/2018 11:42:22 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: BenLurkin

Based on the description of the video directly dealing with Vietnam and the darker aspects to the 1960s, they’re more likely talking about atrocities committed by Americans claimed by the so-called “free press”.


8 posted on 01/01/2018 11:42:47 AM PST by otness_e
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They never discuss the atrocities committed by North Vietnamese Communists when the US pulled out.

Their “anti-war” activists posing on Viet Cong anti-aircraft guns (aimed at our troops) and flying the North Vietnamese flag reveals the lie that they were “anti-war”. They didn’t want both sides to lay down their arms, they were pro-Communist protesters advocating for North Vietnamese military victory. Not a lick of anti-war sentiment in their foul bodies.


9 posted on 01/01/2018 11:52:06 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: a fool in paradise

Fully agreed there. The vast majority of those jerks were rooting for the enemy. Even the ones who didn’t root for the enemy weren’t much better, literally wanting to get out of the draft due to a rather stupid decision of exempting them from the draft by going to college.


10 posted on 01/01/2018 11:56:16 AM PST by otness_e
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Here are a few songs from the '60's that probably won't be on the soundtrack:
11 posted on 01/01/2018 12:01:55 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: otness_e

The Weather Underground plotted to bomb an armory dance and cheered the Manson murder of ‘pigs’.

John Kerry’s group discussed murdering congressmen until there was no more support for war in Vietnam.

So much for being a “peace” movement. Communists in America also rallied against going to war against Hitler and the NAZIs. Pete Seeger sang and recorded protest songs against the war. Woody Gutherie’s “this machine kills fascists” slogan was a convenient lie. They were fine with Fascism until Stalin was betrayed (and the slogan didn’t appear on the guitar until after the Pearl Harbor attack). Communists were behind the so-called anti-war protests of the 2000s as well.


12 posted on 01/01/2018 12:04:00 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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They had no real clue about what they were talking about if they were never there....


13 posted on 01/01/2018 12:05:05 PM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Fiji Hill

Wonder if any of the Doors’ songs are on the soundtrack

Jim Morrison’s dad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Stephen_Morrison

In 1963, Morrison took command of the Essex-class aircraft carrier USS Bon Homme Richard, flagship of a 3rd Fleet Carrier Division in the Pacific, and based at Naval Air Station Alameda, California. Morrison was in command of the Carrier Division during the controversial Gulf of Tonkin Incident in August 1964, which resulted effectively in the true beginning of the Vietnam War by President Lyndon Johnson.[6]


14 posted on 01/01/2018 12:05:26 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Fiji Hill

For What It’s Worth typically turns up in such revisionist historical accounts but it has nothing to do with integration, assassinations, or the Vietnam war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunset_Strip_curfew_riots

The Sunset Strip curfew riots, also known as the “hippie riots”, were a series of early counterculture-era clashes that took place between police and young people on the Sunset Strip in Hollywood, California in 1966.

...annoyed residents and business owners in the district had encouraged the passage of strict (10:00 p.m.) curfew and loitering laws to reduce the traffic congestion resulting from crowds of young club patrons.[3] This was perceived by young, local rock music fans as an infringement on their civil rights, and for weeks tensions and protests swelled. On Saturday, November 12, 1966, fliers were distributed along the Strip inviting people to demonstrate later that day. Hours before the protest one of L.A.’s rock ‘n’ roll radio stations announced there would be a rally at Pandora’s Box, a club facing forced closure and demolition at the corner of Sunset Boulevard and Crescent Heights, and cautioned people to tread carefully.[4] That evening, as many as a 1,000 youthful demonstrators, including such celebrities as Jack Nicholson and Peter Fonda (who was handcuffed by police), erupted in protest against the perceived repressive enforcement of these recently invoked curfew laws.

...”For What It’s Worth” performed by Buffalo Springfield and written by Stephen Stills. The song is often used as an antiwar protest song despite not being originally intended as one.[9]Regarding the events, Stills has said: “Riot is a ridiculous name, it was a funeral for Pandora’s Box. But it looked like a revolution.”


15 posted on 01/01/2018 12:09:30 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: a fool in paradise

Yeah, fully agreed there, like I said before. Sure, maybe there were a few people genuinely interested in peace on both sides, but the vast majority of the so-called “anti-war left” only used “peace” as an excuse to root for the enemy, or at the very least behave in a cowardly fashion via the whole draft system.


16 posted on 01/01/2018 12:09:39 PM PST by otness_e
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To: a fool in paradise

The 60’s.

Charlie Manson
Charlie Whitman
Zodiac killer


17 posted on 01/01/2018 12:11:03 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Delusional - Adjective, Describes a Democrat or member of the MSM)
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To: JBW1949

Quite true. The sixties, perhaps like the twenties, cannot be explained or understood by those who did not live through it. If you were not born between 1945 and 1954 you are either too old or too young to have been at the heart of it, and all you can know is a caricature of those ten years. To quote Dickens, “It was the best of times, and the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity ...


18 posted on 01/01/2018 12:30:19 PM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: otness_e

I’ve seen each episode. While left-of-center, they aren’t leftist. They do a great job giving a person a feeling for what it was like in those years, especially the first three episodes. A bit over-the-top with their 1950’s stereotyping, but you have to remember a lot of people on the fringes did feel excluded from mainstream society. The series really does help make sense of the Sixties.
After viewing, you think perhaps a majority of people felt and thought about issues as they are described in the series. I would say that at times people’s fluctuating attitudes maybe did describe the majorities’ beliefs at various times. But the series and all the people they interview in 1991 stops there and just assumes their liberal viewpoint is normal and held by a majority of people right to 1991 and through to today. But it isn’t and it doesn’t.

The liberals never left their heady days of cultural zeitgeist of the 1960’s. Now we know better to think that the liberal way is the only way.

The main lesson of real life: Diversity is NOT our strength.


19 posted on 01/01/2018 12:40:33 PM PST by Right Republican (Right Republican)
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To: a fool in paradise

When “For What It’s Worth” came out late in 1966, I liked it. The Sunset Strip riots were in the news at the time, but I didn’t associate them with the song, which I thought to have been inspired by the mass rallies and demonstrations that were part of Red China’s “Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution,” which began earlier in the year.


20 posted on 01/01/2018 12:50:21 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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