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What if Ken Starr Was Right?
NYT ^ | 11/18/17 | Ross Douthat

Posted on 11/18/2017 10:13:48 PM PST by Kartographer

But a moment of reassessment is a good time to reassess things for yourself, so I spent this week reading about the lost world of the 1990s. I skimmed the Starr Report. I leafed through books by George Stephanopoulos and Joe Klein and Michael Isikoff. I dug into Troopergate and Whitewater and other first-term scandals. I reacquainted myself with Gennifer Flowers and Webb Hubbell, James Riady and Marc Rich.

After doing all this reading, I’m not sure my reasonable middle ground is actually reasonable. It may be that the conservatives of the 1990s were simply right about Clinton, that once he failed to resign he really deserved to be impeached.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics
KEYWORDS: broaddrick; clintoon; flowers; hubbell; marcrich; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; partisanmediashills; rossdouthat; starr; troopergate; whitewater
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To: Catmom

Actually I am surprised Bill is still with us. Miracle of modern medicine.


21 posted on 11/19/2017 1:28:25 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: jobim

...”Douthat can write a valuable story - but this is not it. Those of us who read American
Spectator, the books by Tyrrell & the Secret Service guy, Troopergate, Whitewater, we
know what happened. The Left will never revisit these years. Douthat will because he has
a moral compass. But who else?”...

Yes. Some of the books are still available from Amazon. According to the books, Bill Clinton had his “bad character” reputation from his Arkansas days and Hillary was already in her fixit mode. The Democrat machine, though, saw him as someone who could win the Presidency and went into action. Had Ross Perot stayed out of that race, Clinton would not have won. Most of the books charge things against Clinton worse than his sexual appetites and his use of the State Police to help him in those activities. All in all, if only half of those writings are true, Clinton has a sordid past, and, now, the US has a chance to understand, through honest examination, what really happened with the Russian Dossier and the Uranium deal, for those things, much more than Bill’s sexual aggressions, will effect Americans and our future. Make no mistake. All of these things are not just Bill. They are Bill and Hillary, together. They are, as Bill said, “two for one.” It is an amazing development, after all of these years, that some people, like Mr. Douthat, are talking about this. If you want to read what is stranger than fiction, get all the books you can about the lives of both Bill and Hillary, read, and decide what you think. Those of us who lived through those years know what we think. It was reported that the Clinton’s even stole items from the WH when they left. No one talks about that. Is it true? Might be a good time to cleanse everything. The swamp of today was generously nurtured and fed throughout that period.


22 posted on 11/19/2017 2:12:40 AM PST by jazzlite
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To: Kartographer

Honest people recognized that at the time. Democrats are now jumping on that bandwagon because it is politically expedient and no longer hurts their precious CLintons. The left disgusts me.


23 posted on 11/19/2017 2:37:52 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Kartographer

I thought Clinton WAS impeached but not removed????


24 posted on 11/19/2017 2:46:55 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Jane Long; GOPJ; RitaOK; DollyCali; Tennessee Nana; sickoflibs; TADSLOS; AuntB; SgtBob; ...

PING


25 posted on 11/19/2017 3:50:40 AM PST by Liz
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To: All

SOURCE: Breitbart.com

The Washington Post recently recalled the pattern of Hillary Clinton’s defenses of her husband against what she called “bimbo eruptions”:

… Hillary Clinton dismissed an accusation made by Gennifer Flowers, the singer who sold her story to a supermarket tabloid after having previously denied an affair. In an ABC News interview, she called Flowers “some failed cabaret singer who doesn’t even have much of a résumé to fall back on.” She told Esquire magazine in 1992 that if she had the chance to cross-examine Flowers, “I mean, I would crucify her.”

The Post noted: “Six years later, Bill Clinton acknowledged a sexual encounter with Flowers.”
It added that when the Lewinsky scandal emerged, in which Clinton had oral sex with the then-White House intern in the Oval Office, Hillary Clinton refused to credit the story of his accuser, choosing to believe her husband’s lies instead.

She reportedly called Lewinsky a “narcissistic loony toon.”

Former Bill Clinton aide George Stephanopoulos, now an anchor for ABC News, wrote in his memoir All Too Human: A Political Education that Hillary Clinton had to “savage her enemies” during the Lewinsky affair, repeating a pattern from previous scandals involving her husband’s behavior towards women.

In 1991, for example, when a woman named Connie Hamzy emerged to accuse Bill Clinton of having an affair with her, Hillary Clinton said, “We have to destroy her story,” according to Stephanopoulos.

He then set about arranging affidavits from people who could back up Bill Clinton’s story: “We’d survived our first bimbo eruption,” Stephanopoulos recalled.

Later, Stephanopoulos wrote, he wondered whether he had been “complicit” in Bill Clinton’s behavior “because my defense of Clinton against past bimbo eruptions had been predicated on my belief that he wouldn’t create new ones.”

The same might be said of Hillary Clinton.

Joel B. Pollak is Senior Editor-at-Large at Breitbart News. His new book, See No Evil: 19 Hard Truths the Left Can’t Handle, is available from Regnery through Amazon. Follow him on Twitter at @joelpollak.


26 posted on 11/19/2017 3:53:11 AM PST by Liz
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To: Enlightened1

They’re going to have to whack her to get her to go away.


27 posted on 11/19/2017 3:53:39 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Where’s Lanny Davis? Has Davis turned on Slick Willy yet? Or is he still lying his butt off, flacking for Clinton?


28 posted on 11/19/2017 4:01:26 AM PST by Tucker39 (Read: Psalm 145. The whole psalm.....aloud; as praise to our God.)
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To: Catmom
The Clintons were celebrating 25 yrs of Clinton being President in Little Rock last night and Carvile was there...you can watch it on FOX....and as Hilliary is screeching about Trump, BJ's jaw is so Clenched his muscle is sticking way out of his jaw! Love it!

They didn't even sleep in the same place...she stayed at the Capitol Hotel and he stayed in his apartment in the Trailer looking Liebrary!

29 posted on 11/19/2017 4:04:50 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Pollster1

Communists are like that. Once you become useless or worse, a detriment to the “cause”, they throw you under the bus in a blink of an eye.


30 posted on 11/19/2017 4:07:44 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Liz

Thanks for the ping; post. BTTT!


31 posted on 11/19/2017 4:15:19 AM PST by PGalt
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To: jobim

And we need the context of Douthat. He didn’t graduate from Harvard magna cum laude until the year after 9/11. He is not so much “revisiting” the era of Clinton criminality as looking at something that was going over his head when he was coming out of middle school.


32 posted on 11/19/2017 4:23:46 AM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: Tucker39

“Where’s Lanny Davis?”

He’ll never turn on Clinton. During the Lewinsky-blue-dress thing, I think it was Lanny who said, “Just because there’s semen doesn’t mean there was sex.”. That kind of insane loyalty sticks.


33 posted on 11/19/2017 4:24:20 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ( "Freedom is not free; Free men are not equal, and Equal men are not free". Richard Berkeley Cotten)
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To: Tucker39
Where’s Lanny Davis?

Doesn't he work for the Clinton Foundation? Or am I thinking of Bruce Lindsay?

34 posted on 11/19/2017 4:39:38 AM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: Kartographer

This is the wind up.

It’ll be a curve ball.

L


35 posted on 11/19/2017 4:44:47 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Kartographer

“For which, it’s safe to say, we have all been amply punished since.”

Hardly, Ross. Hardly.

L


36 posted on 11/19/2017 4:47:21 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Henchster

“Or do they really believe that if they sacrifice Bill, they will be able to pressure Trump to resign over the false accusations made in the dossier?”

This is what the whole revisiting of the Clinton sex scandal, Harvey Weinstein, Al Franken etc. scandals is about. This was stated weeks ago on Infowars when the Weinstein drama started. Create a narrative about how accusers must be taken seriously and these abusers must be taken out of public life. It all lays the groundwork for revisiting the need to impeach Trump. It’s all very coordinated.


37 posted on 11/19/2017 4:52:11 AM PST by Antipolitico
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To: Kartographer

Read the book SELLOUT for the truth about the Clinton Impeachment


38 posted on 11/19/2017 4:59:35 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Kartographer

The whole point of the “liberal reassessment” is to establish justification for impeaching President Trump.

Pathetic.


39 posted on 11/19/2017 5:04:13 AM PST by Redleg Duke (He is leading us in Making America Great Again!)
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To: Kartographer

The whole point of the “liberal reassessment” is to establish justification for impeaching President Trump.

Pathetic.


40 posted on 11/19/2017 5:04:16 AM PST by Redleg Duke (He is leading us in Making America Great Again!)
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