Posted on 11/08/2017 5:21:48 PM PST by bitt
and so far no indictments involving Trump Russia 2016
Exactly.
Conspriracy minded people are having a blast. I can’t blame them, plenty pf potential.
those ID#s are identical to the ‘sealed indictment ID #s’ in the post#1....
Question: do sealed indictments come from a grand jury??
First, you don't even know that those are sealed indictments. Someone who just replied to you, who claims to have first hand experience in such matters, says he couldn't find any evidence of them.
Second, you don't even know that these are related to Mueller's Grand Jury, at all. The guy who created this thread already admitted he completely made that up!
Third, your fixation that some came out on certain dates, and some appear to remain unsealed is completely irrelevant, based on the two points above. Your baseline of what these documents even are is already lost, yet you're trying to count them up in some manner so you can make even further unfounded assumptions.
If you have some fairly solid info that appears to hold merit, that you have vetted in some reasonable manner on your own, that isn't being reported by the MSM, then by all means bring it up. But creating phony titles to threads, then cramming them full of even more lies and BS is ridiculous.
These are all targeted at Trump. They know they can do what ever they want, project any message they want and control the narrative entirely. Trump and his campaign committed a crime, they won. It does not matter who actually committed a crime, it only matters who is willing to do what it takes. Obviously, that is not the gopE.
Nobody knows if they’re from Mueller’s Grand Jury; however, it is a fact that one of the unsealed indictments (Manafort/Gates) referred to another that remains sealed. It could be that there are multiple things going on and I’d suspect a number flow from weekend events in Saudi Arabia - whether that ended up in Mueller’s scope or not, it certainly well could (i.e. Huma + Clinton Foundation) - or it could be another heretofore unrevealed investigation. Or it could be ... almost anything! See the PDFs I posted links to - those are source for what people are speculating about ... and the speculation is now abounding, Bill Mitchell reporting Mueller is now up to 33 ... TBD ;)
hope Diane Reynolds is in the pool of indictments
I don’t know if the Sauds has anything to do with anything related to the U.S but IF Trump wants to really fight back he can’t use anyone in the country since every “elite” is against him. He would have to have help from foreigner who have dirt on the local swamp.
Yes, sealed indictments come from a grand jury. All federal criminal indictments must come from a grand jury. Federal complaints do not (someone can waive an indictment). Understand that many federal criminal cases are filed under seal until all defendants are located, especially in multi-defendant cases, such as drug conspiracies with numerous players.
Further, it’s possible that Mueller is just dealing with the normal DC grand jury that is currently in session. That’s how it is done where I am—it’s all the same grand jury, but different prosecutors will present separate cases to them. Like I said, I didn’t see any “link” to sealed indictments, so I have no idea where that info came from. It doesn’t mean that it’s bogus—I’m just not sure where they are getting it.
Every district runs its records different. For instance, there are two districts in Missouri (where I am) and in the Eastern, they will show filings on PACER as US v. Suppressed where they haven’t identified a defendant yet—in the Western, they don’t do that—you don’t see any case until its actually filed.
I’m not saying anything here is real or fake—I’m just trying to explain how the process works. All that being said, sealed indictments are completely common in federal criminal court and it’s absolutely plausible that none of them have anything to do with the Mueller deal.
Unfortunately they're exposing themselves as rank amateurs, with obviously little research skill or logic, who are polluting FR with false and misleading info. When those of us who have legitimately been investigating such things for a while, try to point out their errors, they could care less, since as you said "having a blast" seems to be all they really care about, not actually finding the truth.
Why else would you admit to creating a completely false and misleading title to a thread, then when called on it basically say sorry i just post whatever I come across on Twitter, when they actually not only posted what they found on Twitter, they created a false title that fulfilled their fantasy? That's research? Or sensationalism, designed to attract personal attention?
Just rechecked on YOUTUBE
JEB said it a couple weeks ago
Would someone smarter than me please check this out. I read that cases with 700-800 numbers at the end are business of the courts not indictment’s...if this is the case there are only 3 true indictment’s... It seems the www is over the top with all this...
I’ve been a litigator for all my professional life. I’ve played all the roles. Changing the Grand Jury from VA to DC is forum selection. Mueller is not the first to do so - hardly. It’s done for a reason. Ask yourself - what reason? He’s chosen a new forum with certain unique characteristics. Ask why.
nothing there at your link.
This was a huge development. I am reminded of the historic trip President Trump took to Saudi Arabia, and do not think Saudi criminals have the right to remain silent. If there is evidence of Clinton crimes with these Saudis I would expect it to be shared with the Trump Administration via the proper channels.
i hope they share the info before they cut their heads off...
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