Posted on 10/20/2017 3:28:51 PM PDT by Duke C.
The NHS will ban patients from surgery indefinitely unless they lose weight or quit smoking, under controversial plans drawn up in Hertfordshire.
The restrictions - thought to be the most extreme yet to be introduced by health services - immediately came under attack from the Royal College of Surgeons.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
Soon, surgery will be denied to certain privileged races and people who are not members of the preferred political party.
It is also denied in the US if you do not have the proper coverage or cannot afford the operation.
I grew up around smokers. A couple of my brothers were habitual smokers. My parents gave it up at for good at different times... cold turkey. My dad gave it up in the 70s and my mom in the 90s. My brothers eventually gave it up, too. I dabbled in a smoke on a rare occasion in my youth, but it was never habitual. Even though it was present in my childhood, when I see people smoking it’s hard for me to wrap my brain around it. It seems like a very harmful relic of the past. I truly can’t believe that people still do it. And the expense of it! Good for you for giving it up.
Doctor: How can I help you, Mr Barrett?
Patient: I feel sick.
Doctor: What?
Patient: I said I feel sick.
Doctor: I’m sorry but we don’t treat people who aren’t well.
Patient: So, when I’ve recovered, then you’ll see me?
Doctor: If that’s what you want.
Patient: What kind of health care is that?
Doctor: The free kind.
What happens when a government considers citizens their property.
It is already happening in the US. Physicians are routinely denying elective surgery if you have a BMI over 40. I cant say I blame them. Obese patients have a high complication rate. What physician in their right mind would want to risk a lawsuit or having a high complication rate because they take riskier patients?
No. It is already here. Try to find a surgeon who will operate on you while you continue to smoke or if you are quite overweight.
I also want to add- Obese patients are physically hard to operate on. They are much more difficult to determine anesthesia dosage. Not to mention the wear and tear on physicians and nurses lifting these patients.
Not necessarily true. If it’s an emergency you cannot be denied
My wife couldn't even get a tattoo removed unless she quit smoking, which she did. We both did, cold turkey. Coming up on two years nicotine free.
As is NHS-style socialized medicine with rationed care. I have no doubt we will see this in the USA.
I broke me hip. My doc had to operate on me. He preferred that I would quit smoking but the surgery had to be done so it was
I had argued FOR restrictions on a previous thread, but need to apologize. This was not found in the previously posted article:
“The restrictions mean those with a Body Mass Index of 30 or more will be set targets to reduce their weight by 10 per cent over nine months, with those with a BMI over 40 will be told to cut their weight by 15 per cent.”
THAT is just darn STUPID. It is one thing, on a case by case basis, to deny certain surgeries based on gross obesity. But to deny anyone with a BMI over 30 surgery for 9+ months is insane.
BMI has SOME meaning applied over large populations. It is worthless for discussing any individual. I had a coworker once whose wrists were darn near the size of my knees. Shoulders to match. BIG dude! Not fat. Just darn big. At the same time, I had a male coworker with a 24” waist. He was NOT happy about it, but he was built like a straw. BMI by itself is totally meaningless when applied to an individual.
So to those on the previous thread - I’m sorry. I was wrong. This IS stupid.
But then there are all the non-emergency things like hip and joint replacement and so on.
They become emergent over time
“It is also denied in the US if you do not have the proper coverage or cannot afford the operation.”
This is a blatant lie, by law you cannot be denied medical treatment, you may owe a lot of money but they usually will work with you on that. This is just another Leftist propaganda myth.
Nope , they will never ration care, unless they decide to.
Bullets and ropes are coming too.
gtfo of here you tyrant.
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