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To: davikkm

I’d love it if we came closer to the truth. But whenever someone starts with “deep state,” they lose a lot of credibility with me. Who originated that term and when?

I’ve read Karl Marx and taken a college course taught by a Marxist who assigned both historical and modern socialist readings. Marxism existed and still exists. Communist countries existed and still exist. Deep state? Not so sure.

The fact is Americans have very diverse opinions. People in government who read the New York Times, listen to NPR and watch CNN, will think differently than people who watch Fox News, listen to Rush Limbaugh, and frequent the American Thinker or Free Republic. Fear of the deep state is unwarranted. It is like fear of the skull and bones society (except the skull and bones society actually exists).


32 posted on 10/14/2017 8:03:47 AM PDT by ChessExpert (NAFTA - Not A Free Trade Agreement)
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To: ChessExpert

The deep state does exist. If you aren’t totally convinced of that by now you need to crawl out from under your rock.

Have you not heard of Fast and Furious, IRS-gate, IG-gate, Benghazi, Extortion 17, The Hammer, any of the stuff that Wikileaks has come out with regarding NSA/CIA surveillance and evidence-planting capabilities, etc?

We have proof that the NTSB altered evidence in their final report regarding what turns out to be a NON-engine failure “crash” that supposedly killed the woman who used her seal to hide the fact that HI state registrar Alvin Onaka was actually confirming that Obama does NOT have a valid HI BC.

Do not even TRY to tell me that the US government bureaucracy is not a criminal enterprise. I’ve been dealing with them for too long to doubt the deep state’s existence for even one second, and my family bears the battlescars from the wounds.

If you haven’t battled them then you have nothing credible to say.


48 posted on 10/14/2017 9:22:18 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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