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The Extreme Angle Shot - Long Range shooting
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 9/22/2017 | J Johnson

Posted on 09/22/2017 8:33:22 AM PDT by w1n1

If you're shooting at a steep uphill or downhill target at long distance and you don’t compensate for the difference in gravity, you’ll miss. Rifle expert Jeff Johnston shows how to make that shot!

Some hunters know that when facing a long downhill shot angle they are getting slightly lower than normal. That’s because gravity pull is greatest on objects that is parallel to earth. And so what this means is that a bullet fired at an angle won’t drop as much as one fired over level ground. But surprisingly this also means that a bullet will strike fire when shooting up hills as well.

Of course how much higher a bullet will hit is a product than the distinctness of the hill and the range to the target. For example 300 yards shot at a 45 degree angle which is pretty darn steep with this .306 right here with strike constantly six inches high. So generally hunters taking shots at... Read and see the rest of this video on long range - extreme angle shot here.


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1 posted on 09/22/2017 8:33:22 AM PDT by w1n1
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To: w1n1

Shooting 101.


2 posted on 09/22/2017 8:39:00 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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That’s because gravity pull is greatest on objects that is parallel to earth. .

Whoever wrote this didn't pass freshman physics. You may assume that g is a constant for all intents and purposes over the trajectory of any ballistic projectile shot at the earth's surface and travelling several thousand yards or less before impact.

3 posted on 09/22/2017 8:39:11 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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Yeah no kidding. Sure the ballistic arc looks different at an angle but that is not due to gravity changing.


4 posted on 09/22/2017 8:48:13 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: w1n1
Some hunters know that when facing a long downhill shot angle they are getting slightly lower than normal. That’s because gravity pull is greatest on objects that is parallel to earth. And so what this means is that a bullet fired at an angle won’t drop as much as one fired over level ground. But surprisingly this also means that a bullet will strike fire when shooting up hills as well. Of course how much higher a bullet will hit is a product than the distinctness of the hill and the range to the target.

I expect this level of proofreading from liberals, not from normal people. My revisions below are a little better:

Some hunters know that when facing a long downhill shot angle they are getting hitting slightly lower than normal. That’s because gravity [gravity's] pull is greatest on objects that is are [grammar fixed, but the science and math are incorrect and confusing] parallel to earth. And so what this means is that a bullet fired at an angle won’t drop as much as one fired over level ground. But surprisingly this also means that a bullet will strike fire higher [?] when shooting up hills as well. Of course how much higher a bullet will hit is a product than the distinctness [I don't know how to fix this one] of the hill and the range to the target.

I try not to be the grammar Nazi on discussion posts here, but articles should have higher standards. While covering an important point, the writing on this one was a bit much for me. The errors both distract from the main point and reduce clarity.

5 posted on 09/22/2017 8:49:38 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: AndyJackson

I saw that, too. I sure wouldn’t want Mr. Johnson tutoring my kid in physics. What a dumb thing to say.

Following his logic, gravity has a larger affect on me when walking horizontally than when jumping vertically. Gravity “knows” which way you are moving.


6 posted on 09/22/2017 8:51:05 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Pollster1

“Product of ‘distinctness’ and range”

LOL...pardon me, gotta go buy a new “Distinctness Meter.”


7 posted on 09/22/2017 8:53:54 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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A bullet’s velocity can be divided into horizontal and vertical compoents. An initial horizontal shot has a zero vertical component except for gravity which caused the bullet to drop.

A sharply elevated shot has a strong vertical component that is greater than the effect of gravity, at least until air resistance reduced the vertical velocity so that gravity become dominant at the apogee (or the bullet hits the target).


8 posted on 09/22/2017 9:04:17 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: w1n1
Here's a far better explanation, with proper spelling and grammar, written by Major John L. Plaster, US Army (Ret.).

http://millettsights.com/downloads/ShootingUphillAndDownhill.pdf

9 posted on 09/22/2017 9:10:37 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: Pollster1

It appears that this article was created with a speech-to-text app. This sort of technology is not always friendly, especially if a “writer” totally blows off the proofreading work.


10 posted on 09/22/2017 9:10:43 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Can you fix that one? I was lost on “distinctness and range”; I don’t know what he was trying to say.


11 posted on 09/22/2017 9:11:00 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Charles Martel

That makes sense. Thank you.


12 posted on 09/22/2017 9:11:34 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: AndyJackson

Whoever wrote this didn’t pass freshman physics.

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Agreed. The writer should stay away from physics, unless they want to use vectors correctly.


13 posted on 09/22/2017 9:12:54 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Pollster1
I think "distinctness" means the steepness of the hill, in other words the angle to the target.

He should have used a diagram or two. Here's a very simple one (but it ignores the optical line through the scope or sights):


14 posted on 09/22/2017 9:21:58 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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“But surprisingly this also means that a bullet will strike fire when shooting up hills as well. Of course how much higher a bullet will hit is a product than the distinctness of the hill and the range to the target.” Was this article dictated? Did “Tootsie” the steno fumble the words “fire” and “higher”? Or, in what way does a bullet aimed puphill strike FIRE? That term is strange to me.


15 posted on 09/22/2017 9:26:40 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Read: Psalm 145. The whole psalm.....aloud; as praise to our God.)
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Sure the ballistic arc looks different at an angle but that is not due to gravity changing.

Agreed. A down slope shot travels a modicum faster than a level shot because of the effect of gra\vity. Thus requiring less elevation compensation. I think it's called...angular momentum. Unless, of course, I'm wrong.

16 posted on 09/22/2017 9:27:23 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers)
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17 posted on 09/22/2017 9:30:10 AM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: Mariner

My Ballistic app on my iPhone makes the correction for shooting uphill or down hill. I have a bracket on my gun to mount the iphone and it automatically measures the angle and puts into the calculation. Also the app automatically gets info on temperature and pressure from the nearest weather stationed the internet as well a altitude from gps for the calculation.

Have made several long range hunting shots with this app, longest was 970 yards on antelope in Wyoming.


18 posted on 09/22/2017 9:42:06 AM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: w1n1

Heck upn` here in the mountains usn`s were trained as kids for automatic compensation of a groundhog`s shadow being off kilter a slight bit for the downhill shot -
Who are these morons who never fired a .22 when they are 6 years old, then have the gall write about guns??


19 posted on 09/22/2017 9:43:30 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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Interesting. Show this to our range rep.


20 posted on 09/22/2017 9:51:40 AM PDT by onedoug
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