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Before Fawning Praise, Don't Forget the Damage #NeverTrumpers Did
Black & Blonde Media ^ | 7/17/17 | Black & Blonde Media

Posted on 07/17/2017 11:24:48 AM PDT by impetrio1

We also know that many who supported Ted Cruz were either silent after Donald Trump received the Republican presidential nomination, or went all out on the "vote your conscience" last-ditch attempt to thwart the will of the millions who voted for the party front runner. Some even publicly announced they'd never vote for Donald Trump in the general election and were rewarded with a gubmint job.

It now infuriates us that some of the very people who lectured us about "conservative principles" and insulted Trump supporters daily on social media or on their radio programs are now being praised for telling us what we already knew about President Trump as if THEY knew it all along.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; cruz; nevertrump; sayet; trump
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To: BuddhaBrown
People who said they would not have voted for any other Republican nominee.

There are close to zero of those here. So I don't know who here you are trying to bash. There are many, however, who would not have voted for another Bush. Most of us would have gone along with a Cruz, although in my case, he really turned me off at the end of the primaries. He (and Ben Carson to some extent) were the only conservatives in the race other than Trump, but I realized early on that Cruz was just not going to be able to win any more states than Romney had. He was just too stiff and unlikeable. Rubio and Walker had some fans here. Most of the others, there may have been a lot of people who could not hold their nose again just to vote for another RINO. But most people would have eventually come around, if only because...Hillary!.

So, I think you are wrong to impugn FR by claiming a significant presence of OnlyTrump and that they were as bad as the nevertrumpers.

21 posted on 07/17/2017 4:15:33 PM PDT by Defiant (The media is the colostomy bag where truth goes after democrats digest it.)
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To: Defiant

“So, I think you are wrong to impugn FR by claiming a significant presence of OnlyTrump and that they were as bad as the nevertrumpers.”

I’m getting kinda old, but I don’t recall impugning FreeRepublic or estimating the balance of NeverTrumpers -vs- OnlyTrumpers.

I made a statement that both attitudes are/were immature and I stand by that.

Then, when asked, I gave my definition of what is an OnlyTrumper. And I stand by that.

The assertions about what was/is in the minds of other Republican voters and who they would or would not have voted for in other circumstances - is totally up to you my man. Have at it.

I’d ask you to respond to the second assertion I made and the specific example I gave regarding the HFC -vs- the TrumpRyan crowd, but I’m off to dinner.


22 posted on 07/17/2017 5:25:08 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: impetrio1

I’m voting my conscience against the RINOs in Congress. I invite President Trump supporters of all stripes to do the same. They are no friends of the President.


23 posted on 07/17/2017 5:30:05 PM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: BuddhaBrown

In an article about nevertrumpers, you had to create a new category of Trump supporter, the “OnlyTrump” and then equate the two, when there were almost no such OnlyTrump people ever in existence, and none here. NeverTrump was the problem and now we read that a good number of them are working with the democrats. They were never conservative, they just talked a good game.


24 posted on 07/17/2017 6:22:46 PM PDT by Defiant (The media is the colostomy bag where truth goes after democrats digest it.)
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To: georgiegirl
I turned off Rush for three months during the primaries, he was that bad. So in the tank for Cruz, he did the very thing he promised he wouldn't. He hurt the future GOP nominee. We cut off Rush 24/7.

Once he got back on the train, it took me a while before thinking he was trustworthy again.

He and his brother have become full throated supporters, and that's important. They're welcome back, and good allies now.

I will always feel a bit betrayed by what he did. Won't forget.

25 posted on 07/17/2017 6:35:17 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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To: Defiant
"...almost no such OnlyTrump people ever in existence, and none here."

That is quite a statement. Certainly I would not agree.

Mythical beings or not in your mind, as long as you agree that an OnlyTrump attitude would be just as immature as a NeverTrump attitude, then I'm satisfied.

Regarding this statement:
"They were never conservative, they just talked a good game."

It could fit some of the NeverTrumpettes as well as Trump himself - depending on the topic.

The word "conservative" has a fairly subjective definition.

Regarding federal entitlement programs Trump is not, AT ALL, what people on a site devoted to Freedom would normally call a conservative - if the thing we wish to conserve is Freedom.

But at least he has not flip/flopped on that issue anyway. We already knew from the campaign that he is not a traditional conservative in that respect.

I don't like that aspect of Trump, but it is what it is and he won. He was totally wrong, from Freedom's perspective, on TrumpRyanCare 1.0 - disastrously wrong. And the HFC was right.

Trump has been wrong already on some stuff, Trump will be wrong on other stuff. But I don't disown him or anything. By the same token, he and his more devoted followers should not dismiss other good Republicans just because they don't always agree on strategies and bills.

I'm talking about the HFC, Cruz, Walker, guys like that who Trump has trashed along the way. They are good people and we should not try to purge them or anything.

When it comes to guys like McCain, Graham and, in recent years, Paul Ryan, then yes I would primary them. The first two have always been flaky. Paul Ryan started his career coming to town as the Donald Trump of entitlement reform in the sense that he was boldly going to tackle the issue like Trump boldly attacks immigration issues - Ryan was on a glorious mission to rid the federal level of entitlements. But, for whatever reasons, he went sour and/or soft on several issues and never was a very good leader.

26 posted on 07/17/2017 8:31:14 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: Theodore R.
Thanks for cracking the obvious and yet un noticed code:

Beware when it says, “R-SC,” “R-WI”, and “R-AZ.”

This election has been and continues to be a big wake up call for most of us on a daily basis.

27 posted on 07/18/2017 10:14:23 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Voting for Trump to be our President, made 62+ million of us into Dumb Deplorable Colluders, MAGA!)
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