Posted on 07/13/2017 7:46:10 PM PDT by TBP
Is that you Glen ?
Your logic stinks.
Two people running, you trip one, the other wins. You helped the winner.
Two people running you walk away. You helped neither.
Got it now?
You attempts are tedious and self deluding.
It’s not my logic that was faulty. I took you through it step by step. It wasn’t just a binary choice. That is the same logic the RINOs use to keep us “in line” (so they don’t have to do anything for us.)
I swear, some people would support Stalin if he ran as a Republican. Can’t have the Dhimmicraps win, you know.
Would you have supported Nelson Rockefeller?
Why don’t you try dealing with the original subject of the thread and the article that was posted, instead of your personal pique?
All of my responses follow from the original article. They are a commentary about why Glen Beck is wrong, now and during the election where he trashed President Trump. He is wrong about why President Trump was elected and wrong about his supporters’ frame of reference.
You required additional input to understand my point of view but the input all followed from the article. Rather than “pique” I am exhibiting “saintly” patience while not allowing you to frame the conversation around straw-men and logical fallacies.
I attempted to allow you to go in peace by saying that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Guess the cognitive dissonance got to you.
Who cares what that little worm has to say? He's burnt his bridges... he might as well just announce that he is registering as a democrat. I'll never listen to or read anything he has to say again. He's a cuck. A disgusting little turd. An Obama shoe shine boy.
No, they don’t. If you think Glenn Beck is wrong about what he says here, then you’re probably not a conservative. This is a lucid, comprehensive, scathing takedown of the liberal media.
But you’d rather attack the man personally than discuss the substance of what he says.
No, you’re clearly piqued.
Agreed with his analysis of the media right from the get-go; it was well done. Look back over the responses if you’ve forgotten.
I also addressed in detail the substance of where his analysis is flawed. He does not understand Trump or Trump supporters. Beck postulates from the citadel of his own belief system. Beck is unable to grasp the points of view of of those whose ideas are different and he invents, as you do, caricatures that he can use as straw-men for his arguments.
I pity him because no rational person will forget his excesses and irrationality during this election cycle.
Sorry but I’m not interested in continuing this dialog since it becomes monotonous. I am sorry for Glen Beck but reasoned argument reaches neither Beck nor you.
From his comments:
" It’s the fact that people in the country are hurting, they’re in real trouble and they’re on their last straw. I’ve talked to people all over the country who are supporting Donald Trump without really wanting to — but they don’t know what else to do because he’s their last hope. They also know if Donald Trump goes away, the left and the media will do the same thing to Mike Pence."
What part of that is not understanding the Trump supporters? They are hurting and they think nobody is listening (except Trump), and that's why they supported him. I think that's pretty much right on target. What do you think the reason is?
Yes, many conservatives supported him because of teh border and tax cuts and repealing 0bamacre (whcih isn't doing too well), but the "average" Trump supporter isn't ideological, isn't a member of a "tribe." He or she is a working person trying to get by and not making it. The immigration views resonate because illegals are taking jobs that could be theirs. They're interested in bringing jobs back (so they can get a well-paying job to support their families), not in the ins and outs of healthcare policy. Just make it affordable.
Do you dispute that analysis?
Beck is unable to grasp the points of view of of those whose ideas are different
Au contraire. Glenn Beck has gone out of his way to talk to and understand people with very different points of view. He talks to a wide range of people -- conservatives of various stripes, progressives, libertarians, atheists, religious people of various kinds -- to understand their views. he may not agree with them, and that' fine, but he's gone out of his way to understand where they'e coming from, to understand them and have them understand him. That's why he's reached out to the likes of Penn Jillette, Riaz Patel, and so many others.
That doesn't mean he doesn't understand the dangers of the left -- I think he understands them better than most. That doesn't mean you can't get along.
I’ll repeat my question:
Would you have supported Nelson Rockefeller?
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