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Kpacota! What you should know about the latest Russian revelation
Flopping Aces ^ | 07-11-17 | DrJohn

Posted on 07/12/2017 11:53:45 AM PDT by Starman417

The general consensus is that Donald Trump Jr. acted unwisely in meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. He did it in person and he left an email trail. Having said that, there is a whole lot more to this story and you best wait for all the shoes to drop.

And they are dropping. Let's take things piece at a time.

An interview with Veselnitskaya on NBC this morning went like this:

MOSCOW — The Russian lawyer who met with Donald Trump Jr. during the presidential campaign denied in an exclusive interview with NBC News that she had any connection to the Kremlin and insisted she met with President Donald Trump’s son in 2016 to discuss sanctions between Russia and the U.S., not to hand over information about Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

“I never had any damaging or sensitive information about Hillary Clinton. It was never my intention to have that,” Natalia Veselnitskaya said.

Her account appeared to contradict that of Trump Jr., who said on Sunday that the premise of the meeting was to discuss damaging information on Clinton that the lawyer was offering. When asked how Trump Jr. seemed to have the impression that she had information about the Democratic National Committee, she responded:

“It is quite possible that maybe they were longing for such an information. They wanted it so badly that they could only hear the thought that they wanted.”

Actually, it did not contradict Trump Jr. whatsoever. Junior released the email chain and here it is

 

The email clearly suggests that Hillary Clinton was colluding with the Russians. There is a problem- there is no such thing as a "crown prosecutor" but  Veselnitskaya once worked as a Russian prosecutor. Veselnitskaya had been denied a visa to enter the US but someone in the obama administration granted her a parole letter so she could defend a company called Prevezon Holdings. Somewhere between January and June 9, 2016, Veselnitskaya veered off her course of defending Prevezon Holdings. When she met with Junior she turned the meeting into a discussion of repealing the Magnitsky Act.

During the meeting Veselnitskaya raised the issue of restoring U.S. adoptions inside Russia if the United States would repeal the Magnitsky Act, a law passed in 2012 punishing Moscow for human rights violations in connection with the death of a lawyer who had discovered a massive money laundering scheme inside the country.
That's really interesting because Putin hates the Magnitsky Act, which was passed to punish Moscow for the death of Sergei Magnitsky.
Vladimir Putin has long reviled the Magnitsky Act and fought to have it repealed. And according to letter from Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Charles Grassley, the Kremlin’s main fight against the law was led by Veselnitskaya’s client, Katsyv.
That would be Denis Katsyv, the owner of Prevezon Holdings, who is being sued by the US for money laundering:
Most notably, Veselnitskaya represented Denis Katsyv, the son of a senior government official and owner of Russian real estate firm Prevezon, which was sued in 2013 by then-Manhattan US Attorney Preet Bharara on charges of laundering money in a massive Russian government tax scam.
As a counter punch, Putin suspends the adoption of Russian babies by US citizens.

Enter Rob Goldstone, the author of the email to Junior.

It was at a beauty pageant in Moscow in 2013 that the Trump's met the Agalarov family. Rob Goldstone is the publicist for billionaire Aras Agalarov's son Emin. Goldstone was also the broker for the meeting between Junior and Veselnitskaya. Then Agalarov's are said to have close ties to Vladimir Putin and Goldstone has strong ties to the Agalarov's.

So what's going on?

Congress passes the Magnitsky Act as a response to the "Magnitsky Affair":

The scam is also known as the Magnitsky affair, named after Sergei Magnitsky, a Russian lawyer for American investment fund manager Bill Browder who is widely believed to have been tortured and killed in a Russian prison after exposing the $230 million fraud.

After Magnitsky's death, Browder sought justice for his former attorney in the US and Europe and, in 2012, Congress passed the Magnitsky Act, which froze the assets of and denied visas to 44 Russian businessmen believed to have been involved in Magnitsky's death.

Putin fights to have it repealed and responds by suspending the adoption of Russian babies. Denis Katsyv is the main principal in that fight.

US Attorney Preet Bharara sues Katsyv and Prevezon.

Natalia Veselnitskaya is dispatched allegedly to defend Prevezon and Katsyv.

She meets with Junior about the repeal of the Magnitsky Act. Remember this from above?

"During the meeting Veselnitskaya raised the issue of restoring U.S. adoptions inside Russia if the United States would repeal the Magnitsky Act"
By what authority would she be able to offer the deal? Something like that would have to come from very high up despite Veselnitskaya  denying any connection to the Kremlin.

Now for the fun part.

It is asserted that Prevezon hired one Fusion GPS:

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net ...


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1 posted on 07/12/2017 11:53:46 AM PDT by Starman417
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Russian reporter for FT says he mixed the terms..used UK equivalent...implication Chaika.

After this gets busted wide open he claims veselnitskaya


2 posted on 07/12/2017 12:13:31 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick

Btw..if you are going to claim this was a deep state escapade as many of you are...then Chaika is the person you would reference

I dont think we did it. I think it was a Russia set up.

But could have been deep state..they do this kind of thing all the time..so if it was...who was the asset. Russia might be asking that right now

And someone may be scrambling to save their life


3 posted on 07/12/2017 12:19:39 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: Starman417

And the even more fun part: Veselnitskaya was sitting right behind US Ambassador to Russia Michael MacFaul (appointed during Obama Administration) during MacFaul’s testimony in front of Congress on June 14, 2016—we have both still image and video proof (from C-SPAN video). Hmmm!!!


4 posted on 07/12/2017 12:22:09 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Starman417

The whole thing is utterly ridiculous, it’s like a Monte Python sketch. Change Russia to Mongolia and it’s ridiculous. “He won the election because of the Mongols!” “The Mongols hacked the election” “Trump colluded with the Mongols” “Don Jr. met with a Mongol”. The Democraps are making themselves look utterly insane and all they are doing is hurting themselves, and BTW - Last year Don Jr. was Joe Q. Citizen, a US citizen free to talk to anybody he wanted to.He had ZERO connection to the White house and Washington, so did his father who was just running for President. OBAMA on the other hand along with his lefto mafia were running things. Why did he allow hacking? Why did he allow this Russian woman into the USA? The left so full of s**t that if they took a dump the world’s sea level would rise 50 miles high.


5 posted on 07/12/2017 12:22:26 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Trump: Greatest POTUS of all time solely for preventing Satan from taking office.)
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> The general consensus is that Donald Trump Jr. acted unwisely

What?!

He was told that a person having evidence of HRC’s crimes with Russians had documents to give him. Yes, let’s see it so I can turn it over to the FBI. He can’t ignore it, that’s misprision.


6 posted on 07/12/2017 12:23:24 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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“Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya”

What are many lawyers good at?

Billing, of course.

Can’t the news media find out who paid for her time in NYC?

Perhaps she could be asked by the news media whom she billed for her time and flight.

I’m pretty sure she didn’t work for free - pro bono is for law school.


7 posted on 07/12/2017 12:29:18 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Aren’t agents for foreign governments supposed to register with the US government?

Was she registered?


8 posted on 07/12/2017 12:31:55 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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You're asking the type of "gumshoe work" investigative questions that the MSM won't DARE ask because it could end the story in no time flat.
9 posted on 07/12/2017 12:33:58 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Starman417; Ray76; TigerClaws; Liz

Coming up next on FBN interview with bob browner (sp?). Mentioned in this piece.

This is getting hot


10 posted on 07/12/2017 12:37:30 PM PDT by thinden
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“Emin Arasovich Agalarov was born 12 December 1979, in Baku, Azerbaijan. He is the son of Azerbaijani-Russian oligarch Aras Agalarov, head of the Crocus Group. Emin is Muslim.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emin_Agalarov


11 posted on 07/12/2017 12:41:16 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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The main bait was the UK Based Goldstone email... the fake dossier was also done out of the UK by this guy Steel.. Have these to ever been in contact with each-other?

Goldstone knew Trump from The Russian miss universe pageant ...

If this Steele in the UK is looking for dirt on Trump in Russia wouldn’t Goldstone the publicity be one the 1st guy they would contact

This Steele (fake dossier creater) working for Fusion GPS gets Goldstone to send the bait email to Don jr.....to set up the meet with this Russian woman who also happens to be connected to Fusion GPS

Goldstone is the key because the first email is the key its the bait.. Why did Goldstone send this ..If Goldstone just was passing on information who sent him the information .. because its clear it was fake from the start


12 posted on 07/12/2017 12:42:16 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: RayChuang88

So, if natalia met with ambassador mcfaul would he be guilty of treasdon, too?


13 posted on 07/12/2017 12:50:45 PM PDT by thinden
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To: Starman417
Ковфифи - Russian word meaning "Covfefe". And that's all this latest news means - nothing.
14 posted on 07/12/2017 12:53:30 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Brian Griffin

Great background info at your link on Emin

Ties to goldstone & fuzion GPS indicate jr taking the appointment with natalie was a strategic attack attempt on trump by the same people responsible for the trump dossier.

DNC, hildabeast, mccain, yeb


15 posted on 07/12/2017 1:19:53 PM PDT by thinden
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To: RayChuang88; SunkenCiv; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; TigersEye; Oynx; Marine_Uncle; ...
Yes,...very curious,...

She must have come over here with multiple missions.

16 posted on 07/12/2017 2:03:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Starman417

Imagine:

Russian lawyer Natalia wants to get meeting with Trump people to end sanctions on certain Russians.

Russian prosecutor asks Emin’s father (a Trump business partner) for help in getting meeting for fellow lawyer Natalia.

Azerbaijani Muslim father talks to Azerbaijani Muslim son about arranging meeting.

Muslim son has brilliant idea to avenge Trump’s insults to Muslims: make Trump and his people look like total fools.

Son can barely control his laughter, so calls Goldstone to help out saying he has information about Russian dealings with Hillary.

Dumb Goldstone, eager to help Trump (and get a reward from Trumps in future), e-mails Trump son.

Trump son, eager to help his dad, down in the polls, takes the bait.

Russian lawyer flies to NY, happy to have gotten an appointment with Trump people.

She of course knows nothing about non-existent Hillary dealings with Russia, so she deflects Trump team’s inquiries and get down to her mission.


17 posted on 07/12/2017 2:22:33 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: thinden
Veselnitskaya was in our country illegally during the Obama admin.
She attended congressional hearings as Obama's ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, testified.

Veselnitskaya was also connected to Fusion GPS, the DNC opposition research
firm that produced the fraudulent and discredited Trump Dossier.

<><> So why was Veselnitskaya hanging out with Obama officials just days after her meeting with Donald Trump Jr.?

<><>And why was Veselnitskaya given a privileged seat up front during the Congressional hearing?

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Obama's US ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul (r) announced he
planned to travel to Moscow in December 2016 to work on ensuring a
smooth transition to Hillary Clinton's "presidency."

18 posted on 07/12/2017 2:24:04 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

She’s learned the lawyer game well.

Make one trip, extend it often, bill multiple clients for the same time. ;)


19 posted on 07/12/2017 2:30:21 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Starman417

The NY Times libeled Sarah Palin and they said it was an “honest mistake”. The Dems tried to entrap Trump Jr and it is somehow a big scandal.


20 posted on 07/12/2017 5:19:16 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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