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How Many Women in the US Military are Going to Die for a Lie?
US Defense Watch ^ | July 11, 2017 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 07/11/2017 9:02:11 PM PDT by pboyington

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1 posted on 07/11/2017 9:02:12 PM PDT by pboyington
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When young American women come home in flag draped caskets, then and only then will the American public demand answers and justice for those who implemented policies that are going to be responsible for the deaths of thousands of America’s daughters, sisters, wives and mothers.

The last time we had women in combat, and some were captured or killed, the brass provided them medals and kicked them upstairs or mustered them out. Nice ceremony for the babes, a letter from the Pentagon to the guys who risked their lives to protect their squadmates.

The truth certainly never appeared in print.

2 posted on 07/11/2017 9:31:21 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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When you see half assed crap written like this which doesn’t even try to be honest or academically rigorous about how we got to this point it is hard to put forth much effort in addressing the problem since people with this same mentality created the problem to start with.


3 posted on 07/11/2017 9:31:47 PM PDT by MrEdd (long hours.)
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Well, I don’t know about “full speed ahead”...


4 posted on 07/11/2017 9:34:59 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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Excellent essay, again. Thank you. “You don’t have to be Clausewitz to figure out that women in the combat arms are setting themselves up to be slaughtered.” Mattis knows Clausewitz and thankfully, Mattis is present Sec. Defense. Let’s home Mattis follows through with common sense.


5 posted on 07/11/2017 9:46:07 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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The same feminists who demand to be in military combat with/against men are the same women who say competing against men in sports (regular guys or trans-women) is unfair to women because men are stronger and faster and have advantages over women.


6 posted on 07/11/2017 9:47:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: MrEdd

You’re targeting the wrong enemy. This demonstrates some sort of severe deficit.

And your final point is false.


7 posted on 07/11/2017 9:53:35 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: texas booster

I was informed that women did not serve well in GW1, by a soldier who was there.


8 posted on 07/11/2017 10:01:13 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Is it not too late to appoint a special counsel to investigate Hillary's crimes?)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Women were nowhere near battalion or brigade level combat arms units in GW I, nor were they in many support units close to any combat. Jessica Lynch in GW II would not have been in that transportation unit in GW I.


9 posted on 07/11/2017 10:26:51 PM PDT by pboyington
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To: MrEdd

You’ve been sucking down too much Pentagon Kool Aid.


10 posted on 07/11/2017 10:29:33 PM PDT by pboyington
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To: reasonisfaith
From the idiot article

This is not saying that women shouldn’t serve. Most jobs in the military can be done by women and when surveyed over 90% of the women in the military want nothing to do with the combat arms and for good reason.

No I am not.
If women are in a Military Occupational Specialty that is combat deployable, and they are not properly pulling a share of the combat tours then the troops who are pullling those tours aren't getting the relief from combat which they should be getting. Those women are not ( contrary to this piece of excrement article) doing the job.

This crap started with slotting women in fields that are combat deployable and then holding the men actually doing the work under combat conditions longar than advisable. That is dangerous to the men in question and deleterious to moral overall. Do not vomit out your verbal diarrhea insisting that this is not a problem again. It very much is a problem and that is why I am dismissing this crap for trying to cover that aspect up.

11 posted on 07/11/2017 10:30:58 PM PDT by MrEdd (long hours.)
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when surveyed over 90% of the women in the military want nothing to do with the combat arms and for good reason
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What I’ve been saying all along...

When old females claim they are speaking for young women who are just aching to fight on the front lines, and that that includes most of the women serving today, they are lying...

If young women want to serve in combat, let them come forward and say so...

But it was always old females who had the loudest mouths...old females TOO OLD to risk their own lives exposed to enemy gun fire...


12 posted on 07/11/2017 10:31:38 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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No I have not. Does post 10 clarify my position enough for you?

I am not saying this article is too harsh. I am pointing out the fact that it is so damned soft that it’s crap.


13 posted on 07/11/2017 10:33:52 PM PDT by MrEdd (long hours.)
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No I have not. Does post 10 clarify my position enough for you?

I am not saying this article is too harsh. I am pointing out the fact that it is so damned soft that it’s crap.


14 posted on 07/11/2017 10:33:56 PM PDT by MrEdd (long hours.)
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Yeah you are. You’re drowning in Kool Aid. You’re swimming in it. You and Wilbur, Mr. Ed. Say hi to Ash Carter and Ray Mabus for me. You’re obviously one of their liberal buddies.


15 posted on 07/11/2017 10:48:55 PM PDT by pboyington
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So you love women filling up combat MOS’s so damned much while not deploying so damned much that in your feeble civilianized mind suggesting that they not fill any ranks which are deployable is “liberal?”

We used to have men in this country.
We used to give a crap about the troops we sent in harms way.
But not you, and not people like you.

You don’t want to fix the problem, and you insist that everyone who wants to roll things back to how things were any time before the Carfer administration is “liberal.”

People like you and the author of this piece who overrode reforms Reagan wanted to make got us where we are.


16 posted on 07/11/2017 10:58:35 PM PDT by MrEdd (long hours.)
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You’re not even making any sense and you’re wasting everyone’s time on here. The whole article is against women in the combat MOS’.


17 posted on 07/11/2017 11:29:37 PM PDT by pboyington
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Read the damned section I highlighted earlier.

The piece is not against women in all deployable career fields.
Under this idiot proposal we still get women in the motor pools who are never billeted in a deployable unit. That means that a stateside slot is unavailable to give a combat troop a breather between tours.

If a specialty can be deployed, everyone in that specialty who is not deployable is a liability to the overall military force. This includes the progeny of ranking government officials (we had the son of a state department official in 3rd Bn 4th Marines who was pulled from the unit as we prepaired for Lebanon in1983 prior to Reagan pulling out) as well as women.

All that crap needs to stop.

This proposal falls short of what needs to happen.


18 posted on 07/11/2017 11:46:02 PM PDT by MrEdd (long hours.)
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The article focuses on strength, however consider that in a games show wherein contestants operate a console working a virtual combatant, with a prize of a quater of a million dollars on the line, there is not one single female contestant. Twiddling a game console for heavensakes! Males and females differ in a hell of a lot more ways than physical strength.


19 posted on 07/12/2017 2:44:44 AM PDT by TalBlack
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This same country that insists women can do men’s jobs also has legal practices that demand women (as well as blacks and Hispanics) are entitled to affirmative action because they are genetically inferior (the government’s policies, not mine).

These new military policies indicate 1) our government isn’t serious about winning any future wars “on the ground”, and 2) American women are as expendable as American men. The latter point is notable because in cultures that don’t have women serving in combat the women are breeding instead.


20 posted on 07/12/2017 2:47:15 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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