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12-Gauge Shotgun vs AR-15 for Personal Defense
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 7/11/2017 | W Clapp

Posted on 07/11/2017 9:39:24 AM PDT by w1n1

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To: w1n1
Be sure of your target and what's behind it.

An AR even in .223 will pass through walls and potentially injure or kill anyone outside the home...like a neighbor. This makes it inferior to a shotgun which can use a variety of loads that are far safer...but also very effective for home defense.

41 posted on 07/11/2017 10:59:14 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Battleships confide in me and tell me where you are...)
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To: w1n1

VEPR 12 with 25 round drum magazine. Get the folding stock model while you’re at it.


42 posted on 07/11/2017 11:02:40 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Seeking the Light)
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To: w1n1

We couldn’t decide so we went with one of each and then added an AK74 for good measure. I will say there is nothing to compare in fear factor to the sound of a Mossberg 500 being racked in the dark. :-)


43 posted on 07/11/2017 11:06:42 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Made In The USA
But what about pistol vs. AR? In a situation where spaces are tight, possibly very close to the target, and adrenaline/fear whipping through me - would I likely have a tactical advantage between the two?

In-the-house go-to is Taurus Judge Public Defender. PDX1 ammo loaded in 2/410 and 3/45 long colt.

44 posted on 07/11/2017 11:06:57 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: Cobra64

If the guy that breaks into your house, and is high on something like PCP. Then you certainly need something that will knock him down.

A 22 or even will not do that.


45 posted on 07/11/2017 11:12:09 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Cobra64; All

If the guy that breaks into your house, and is high on something like PCP. Then you certainly need something that will knock him down.

A 22 or even will not do that.


46 posted on 07/11/2017 11:12:54 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Cobra64; All

If the guy that breaks into your house, and is high on something like PCP. Then you certainly need something that will knock him down.

A 22 or even a 38 will not do that.


47 posted on 07/11/2017 11:13:22 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Arlis

If you hit the bad guy, then he will not be getting up.

It will not matter what he is on.


48 posted on 07/11/2017 11:14:41 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: bruoz

BTW, that 12Ga shotgun if loaded should be kept “cruiser ready”i.e. no round in the chamber and safety on.


Did I miss the /sarc tag?

So I’m supposed to rack the slide to let the intruder know where I am, and that I’m armed?

Yeah, right!


49 posted on 07/11/2017 11:16:37 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Enlightened1
If the guy that breaks into your house, and is high...A 22 or even a 38 will not do that.

Especially if he breaks in 3 times... ;)

50 posted on 07/11/2017 11:17:09 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: w1n1

I don’t know a single individual with a 15 yard hallway to their bedroom...........So the choice is clear, the shotgun for home defense.


51 posted on 07/11/2017 11:18:03 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Cobra64

Over kill certainly a 44 or a .50 cal Desert Eagle.


52 posted on 07/11/2017 11:20:31 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Magnum44

“When a man with a .45 meets a man with a rifle, the man with a pistol will be a dead man.”
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That depends on who shoots most accurately and (usually) first.


53 posted on 07/11/2017 11:21:28 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: w1n1

There was the young man who successfully terminated three home invaders with an AR a couple of months ago. Apparently it had enough knock-down power.


54 posted on 07/11/2017 11:23:34 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Magnum44
When a man with a .45 meets a man with a rifle, the man with a pistol will be a dead man.

Only if the man with the rifle shoots for the heart. You gotta shoot for the heart, Ramon. Shoot for the heart.

55 posted on 07/11/2017 11:26:24 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: chaosagent

You have that right! (AND risk a possible FTF/jam malf just when one is not needed!)


56 posted on 07/11/2017 11:29:37 AM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: Magnum44

We are talking about inside the home defense.

Rifles are better for long range. For instance, like hunting Deer.


57 posted on 07/11/2017 11:30:57 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

Yes they will.

A 22LR in the knee will bring you down and have you withering on the ground, a .38 with hydra-shocks will flat out kill you.


58 posted on 07/11/2017 11:32:55 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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To: Enlightened1

Anything but that weenie .223......................lol!


59 posted on 07/11/2017 11:33:01 AM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: Enlightened1

I have my own range & am a pretty good shot. The best shooters only hit their target 50% of the time in a real- world shooting situation. I know. I’ve been through police Shoot/No-shoot simulators. To limit yourself to one shot is foolish.


60 posted on 07/11/2017 11:33:58 AM PDT by Arlis
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