There is something I don’t understand about this whole debate.
First: I had my kids vaccinated. Didn’t think twice about it. I would do it again. I figure it kept them safe from a number of illnesses and it seemed the responsible thing to do. I’m glad I did it.
But — if my neighbors are the sort who don’t believe in vaccinations, and if they skip the whole thing, and just take their chances ... in what way are they a threat to me or my children? How do they threaten anyone — other than those other people who also don’t believe in vaccinations?
In short: why is vaccination my business? You do or you don’t, right? I don’t think I care.
But a lot of people want Strong Government to FORCE people to put stuff in their children’s bodies. I’m not sure I like the sound of that.
If they come down with a serious communicable illness they can pass it on to people/kids who are not vaccinated. That’s why your kids were vaccinated - so they don’t pick up a particular communicable disease.
Even if you are vacinnated you can still get the illness. It happened with my son with chicken pox.
You need everyone vacinnated to actually get rid of the disease.
The short answer is that yes, unvaccinated children *are* a threat to your children.
There are several reasons for this.
Many vaccines cannot be administered to very young children for a number of reasons. For example, if they have maternal antibodies that recognize a disease already, their immune system might not respond to a vaccine because it senses that there is already protection. But those maternal antibodies wear out, and there might not be enough of them to protect the baby if it is exposed to a deadly disease.
Some children do not develop immunity following vaccination. They will always be at risk of catching these diseases, and the disease is likely to be extremely severe due to the immune problem that prevents them from building the immunity when they receive the vaccine.
People with immune disorders, and people being treated for serious diseases like cancer are also in danger, because these conditions cause immune suppression, which leads to very serious and potentially fatal consequences if they should ever catch the disease.
Last, is the principle of herd immunity. When a sufficient proportion of the population is vaccinated against a disease, the disease will not spread if some unvaccinated person catches it. But if not enough people are vaccinated, the disease can cause a significant outbreak (e.g. the measles outbreak at Disneyland a couple of years ago).
Actually, here is a video that concisely explains herd immunity: Herd Immunity and Immunization.
It is because of herd immunity that public health professionals consider vaccination a public health issue rather than a component of individual health care.
Google and read up on herd immunity.
“But — if my neighbors are the sort who don’t believe in vaccinations, and if they skip the whole thing, and just take their chances ... in what way are they a threat to me or my children? How do they threaten anyone — other than those other people who also don’t believe in vaccinations?”
Some people have compromised immune systems and vaccines are not effective.
Some people are allergic to vaccine ingredients.
Some parents are ignorant of the vaccines leaving their children vulnerable.
The more people that are vaccinated, the less likely these people will be exposed.
Are you all alone on this thread with a constitutional idea of freedom? About our Gd given rights confirmed by our document, ensuring us our right to life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness?
It’s a shame so many FReepers care so much for the freedoms THEY want but not for those of their neighbors. That is kind of the point of freedom. You respect it for others even if you don’t want the same life as them.
Also, vaccines are a corporate PRODUCT that has not been updated in decades to meet actual new science. They are the ONLY product whose manufacturers hold ZERO LIABILITY in this country. And they use ingredients that are known to disrupt neurological functioning. It has also been PROVEN scientifically that some immune systems / biomes of gut bacteria are better at handling the neuro onslaught of a vaccine than others. But no one is investigating these differences. So vaccinating any infant is a crapshoot as to which are in an immunological state to endure without sequelae the injection(s).
Vaccination is primitive as it now stands and should not be given to ANYONE under one year of age, possibly two years of age, and years of studies need to be undertaken to protect babies from early damage that destroys their ability to function in life.
The other details like compounding doses, compounding adjuvants, combining vaccines into one jab, not given parents the package inserts for a week before dosing so that they fully understand this could be the last day they can communicate with their baby, etc, just details. First, vaccines should be banned under one year of age; studies should be undertaken to show which combinations of gut bacteria best protect the child’s brain; and vaccine manufacturers need to be held fully liable for vaccine injuries. If they stop making vaccines, that would be very telling.
First, Do No Harm.
Exactly correct.
Good question. I remember when the Salk polio sugar cubes were administered to us and feeling relieved that I wouldn’t get polio. Back then, you’d see people whose bodies were ravaged by polio and parents told stories of growing up in fear. The government required school children to get it, I believe. This is an excellent question about the limits of government.
Consider too that 3rd worlders carry parasites and infectious diseases that are not stopped by vaccine. It is wrong for gubmint to force kids to attend schools that are unsafe, either from disease or crimes such as rape.