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The Nuclear Option: Hey Congress, Fund the Dang Wall
breitbart.com ^
| 26 Apr 2017
| CHARLES HURT
Posted on 04/26/2017 11:44:48 PM PDT by Helicondelta
A full decade after voting to construct a secure barrier along the U.S. border with Mexico, Congress continues to refuse to lay out the money required to build the damned wall.
This, even after the stunning upset in last years elections by the juggernaut presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump, who won the presidency on a clarion vow to voters that he would once and for all build a wall along the border. Mr. Trumps historic upset came after years and years of both Democrat and Republican politicians talking tough about illegal immigration and promising to crack down on the porous border, yet refusing to actually fix the problem.
This wall, Mr. Trump promised during the campaign, would finally halt not only illegal immigration but also the highly destructive drugs, gangs and slavery pouring over the southern border.
Despite the clear message from voters last year, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi dismisses the wall as immoral, expensive and unwise.
Her comment made history as the moment Nancy Pelosi finally discovered morality. Also noteworthy is that it was the first time Nancy Pelosi has every found anything to be too expensive to stick to the poor, innocent American taxpayer.
As for her mention of wisdom? Well, clearly, that was some kind of typo or another one of her random brain sizzles.
It wasnt so long ago that Ms. Pelosis fellow Democrats were all for the immoral and expensive. Her partys last two standard-bearers former President Barack Obama and twice-failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton both voted in favor of the so-called Secure Fence Act of 2006.
After passing the construction of that barrier into law, Congress balked at actually paying for it and ultimately scrapped much of it
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To: maxtheripper
I don’t know how the money will be obtained from Mexico.
I think there will be a problem taxing remittances because there are so many ways to go around Western Union. There is talk of taking the funds on deposit and assets of a major convicted drug dealer. That would be good.
My thought is that President Trump will make the Mexican government an offer they can’t refuse. I don’t know precisely what that would be but it will be such they will find accepting the offer to fork up some money, border guards,and who knows what else better than the alternative.
There will be a deal.
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posted on
04/27/2017 10:42:28 AM PDT
by
bert
(K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hillary is Ameritrash, pass it on)
To: bert
The continuing cost of the wall, ie staffing and maintenance etc., will need to be addressed at some point as well.
Unfortunately this would not be a one time expense, it will need to be a budgeted line item in perpetuity for it to remain an effective barrier in the future.
To: maxtheripper
"The continuing cost of the wall, ie staffing and maintenance etc., will need to be addressed at some point as well."
Heck, do like they do for highways ...
Maintenance and upkeep for the next 10 miles of The Great Border Wall is sponsored by Joe's Bait Shop, 101 Main Street, Houston, Texas.
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posted on
04/27/2017 11:53:08 AM PDT
by
BlueLancer
(Ex Scientia Tridens)
To: Helicondelta
The GOP Has a Nuclear Option ...:
Rick Klein and Shushannah Walsh:Want to really blow up the Senate and fast?
A new proposal is emerging that would likely do just that, and it has nothing to do with Senate Democrats vow to filibuster Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch.
A proposal is being pushed by some Senate Republicans that would seek to ensure that a House-passed bill could be passed intact by only a simple majority of senators.
How would that work?
Well, the vice president, of course, is the president of the Senate.
The thinking goes that if the Senate parliamentarian ruled that parts of the bill cant be folded into budget reconciliation, Vice President Mike Pence could simply overrule that.
Sen. Rand Paul wants the White House to make that commitment now:That alone, I think, would break the logjam, he told reporters Thursday.
Perhaps, but thats not all it would break.
This would be the executive branchs changing the rules of the upper legislative body.
Filibusters could be broken, perhaps in any circumstance, at the whim of the vice president.
In honor of a certain former veep, that would be a BFD.
Here's more from an excerpt from another source about the option of
"The Nuclear Option for Legislation in the Senate":
Cruz Pushes Obamacare Repeal Gambit That Could Roil the Senate
... Cruzs answer:lean on Vice President Mike Pences gavel to dodge those procedural limits and broaden the legislations scope.
Its not at all clear whether Cruzs colleagues will go along.
The move relies on a radical interpretation of the vice presidents constitutional role as presiding officer of the Senate,where he could step in and effectively overrule the chambers parliamentarian.
It would resemble the so-called nuclear option of ending filibusters ...
... Representative Dave Brat of Virginia, the conservative who unseated then-House Majority Leader Eric Cantor in a 2014 primary, told reporters he doesnt buy leaderships excuse that they cant pursue a far bolder plan.
He said Ryan is overstating the case that existing rules cant allow an insurance overhaul. He wants to be respectful of Senate rules, I do not, Brat said.
From what I understand, Brat said, whoevers sitting in the chair has authority over the parliamentarian.
So they can rewrite the rules.
To speed passage of an Obamacare replacement -- and circumvent Democratic opposition, Republicans opted for a budgetary procedure called reconciliationthat requires only a simple majority in the Senate,
but only if the legislation has minimal effect on the deficit.
GOP leaders, including Ryan, have said this is limiting their ability to include provisions popular with conservatives like selling insurance across state lines.
The Texas senator, who had dinner with Trump this week, said Ryan and Senate GOP leaders are wrong.
You dont need to override the parliamentarian or get a new parliamentarian.
It is the vice president who rules, he told reporters Thursday.
Having Pence rule against established norms for what is allowed in a reconciliation bill would undo decades of Senate tradition of deferring to the parliamentarians rulings.
It could also potentially allow both parties far wider latitude in the future to avoid a 60-vote threshold for all sorts of provisions that dont directly impact spending or taxes.
Representative Trent Franks of Arizona, another conservative, said trying to craft an Obamacare repeal bill to meet the Senates current interpretation of its rules is "untenable."
"... If you get the job done he looks a little differently on the other side," he said.
... "Under the Budget Act of 1974, which is what governs reconciliation, it is the presiding officer, the vice president of the United States, who rules what is permissible on reconciliation and what is not, Cruz said.
And that is a conversation I have been having with a number of my colleagues. ...
So in ending the DemocRATS
'political war', let me end my comment by stating,
"It's time to NUKE THE DemocRATS !"
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posted on
04/27/2017 11:58:41 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: BlueLancer
Might be an idea.
What has anyone heard regarding access to the Rio Grande?
Isn’t at least part of the border like right in the middle of the Rio Grande river?
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