Posted on 04/16/2017 8:40:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I do like this… It was once common, called OJT, or on-the-job-training. Why haven’t the over-IQed tech titans thought of this simple solution before?
Back in the day most jobs had apprenticeships programs and it worked out very well.
-—not a new idea-—the Climax mine in Colorado did a similar operation in the early and mid-’60’s—allowed employees to take an aptitude test and then had training for those qualifying as programmers-—Fortran was the rage then-—
I worked in IT from 1978 to 2014.
Back in the old days, before the middle 90s, every organization had a bunch of mediocre people to perform routine tasks. The pay was OK, and people had jobs.
Nowadays, if you want a testing group or an operations group, you typically locate the entire function in India, or at least most of it. The salaries are not as low as people think, but for $20-30K you can fill up an office in Mumbai or Bangalore with less-than-brilliant people who can do the day-to-day work.
Realistic speaking, only the most difficult tasks are still done in the US. When I worked, we did support, but it was third-level support. When there was a problem, the help desk in India, and then the Operations group in India, both had a crack at it. Only when they were stuck was the ticket transferred to the US developers.
>Win/win.
Agreed. As a degreed CS person in the IT space, I completely agree that it’s not the only way to be capable — although it’s certainly a help! We don’t want the professorial class to be the sole gatekeepers.
Hopefully ‘apprenticeship’ doesn’t turn into code for SJW recruitment or exercises in duckspeaking and doublethink.
Lo and behold, a lot of companies operated by politicians pals and other extortionists sprang up that for a fee would take care of the whole process and keep the company from ending up in the news for "discrimination" or some other horrible offense like being "insensitive to cultural norms".
Shortly thereafter, it became obvious that it was very easy to hire illegal aliens because you would be held harmless since you had left all the details of screening applicants to a company hired for that purpose.
Odd how that worked out, huh?
...discriminates against white men, and women and children of traditional households, where white men are the bread winner. Why does our culture have this death wish?
White men aren’t veterans?
As someone who has worked in the computer software industry for 33 years, I love this.
Not exactly tech, but Ford Motor Co used to hire the best and brightest engineering graduates.
Their first day on the job they were handed brooms, shovels and other implements of manual labor.
Those best and brightest had to perform every job in the plant before they were allowed near a design team.
Those engineers went on to design some of the best cars sold in the US, including the Mustang.
Lee Iacocca started out that way.
Apprenticeships work.
For someone claiming to have been IT for so long, you are lacking in critical thinking skills. Do you actually think all men are veterans? White men are the only group that has a bias against them in the article's priority statement. After all, women and minorities can be veterans too. sigh.
Indeed. My former company ran it’s own apprenticeship program for skilled trades (tool and mold makers mostly). The program was highly effective - it took 4 years to complete and those employees were not only very good but also loyal and many worked 30+ years. Then the 28 year-old beancounters figured the work could be outsourced to India or China. Five years later guess what? They had to restart the apprenticeship program in order to get any kind of quality work done. But by then of course the now 33-year-old MBA had received two promtions, and was working as a director for a competitor.
In my profession, I used to size up the potential of a new hire by having them sweep up an area. It is amazing how much you can tell about a person by observing them use a broom.
You’d get a kick out of the tweet I read that other day, some cupcake had volunterred to help do clean-up work after some local mishap and was ticked off to be reprimanded by the leader for his sweeping skills. But then the person said they realized that it really WAS more efficient to move the broom one way instead of going back-and-forth like they’d started out doing. Kinda unbeleivable that this was a college-age person, not a 4 year-old.
I’ve never claimed to be in IT in any way, shape or form. I was a career counselor and recruiter. I barely have the technical skills to post here.
Because they are a bunch of greedy scumbags who would rather hire an Indian to save 50 bucks a week than train some American red neck.
What these self aggrandizing bastards do is not brain surgery, there are millions of Americans that can easily be taught.
America First!
Truly, it’s a litmus test.
Exactly.
If someone who does the lowest most menial job as if it were the most important job in the world, thats someone who will perform all their tasks to the best of their ability. That is someone you can depend on.
It will tell you all you need to know. Better by far than any resume or interview. A person is revealed in how they sweep.
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