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To Remove ObamaCare We Must First Remove The UniParty “Big Club”
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | Feb 24, 2017 | Sundance

Posted on 02/25/2017 9:13:19 AM PST by Ray76

Look at the upper right side of this page and you will note the self-described affiliation of our group “The Last Refuge”. That name specifically chosen because we broke away from political identity framed around arguments of personality; frustrated because no one was focused on the real hands behind the networks. We have been fighting “The Big Club” for years.

President Trump is the first political entity in our lifetime that not only comprehends the faces of the false arguments (the personalities of false choice), but more importantly sees the architects behind the Potemkin villages represented by those faces. When it comes to domestic economic policies, the architects are the BIG CLUB.

Politicians do not write laws. Paul Ryan, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell and Chuck Schumer do not sit in their offices writing out scripts of laws and legislation; no politician does. Politicians are the faces who sell legislation that unseen hands create. The Big Club are the hands that create the legislation.

Indeed, it makes much more sense to focus the attention on the unseen hands that are never discussed – These are the roots of the issues, the politicians are merely the expendable and interchangeable sales force.

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...


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KEYWORDS: aca; obamacare; sundance; uniparty
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1 posted on 02/25/2017 9:13:19 AM PST by Ray76
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To: Ray76
because no one was focused on the real hands behind the networks. We have been fighting “The Big Club” for years.

President Trump is the first political entity in our lifetime that not only comprehends the faces of the false arguments (the personalities of false choice), but more importantly sees the architects behind the Potemkin villages represented by those faces. When it comes to domestic economic policies, the architects are the BIG CLUB.

Since 1861. That was when crony capitalism took over the government and implemented policy intended to protect the financial interests of crony capitalism. It's been running the nation ever since.

2 posted on 02/25/2017 9:25:56 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Ray76
Betsy Mccaughey now on Kudlow on WABC radio just said that 5% of the users of health insurance use 50% of the health care money yet they pay the same as everyone else.

NO wonder zero care doesn't work.

Plus the biggest problem is no longer Medicare but Medicaid thanks to the obama regime putting almost anyone who asked on medicaid. Who the hell is going to pay for it all!

3 posted on 02/25/2017 9:32:06 AM PST by rodguy911 (Home of the Free because of the brave.MAGA!!)
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To: Ray76

That’s all well and good. If they don’t repeal and replace there will be consequences....no matter who writes what


4 posted on 02/25/2017 9:44:21 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Utter nonsense


5 posted on 02/25/2017 9:45:17 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: rodguy911

“pay for it”

I have proposed raising the state share to 18% so it is about 10% after the state taxes the providers and the stuff the providers buy.

I now think the state share should go to 28%.

As for paying for the federal share:
1. soda tax
2. sugar/corn syrup/honey tax
3. cell phone device tax
4. lawsuit verdict income tax
5. lawsuit filing prospective income tax
6. telecom services tax
7. interstate sales tax
8. fat/food oil tax


6 posted on 02/25/2017 9:52:44 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin
Show me where. Specifically.
7 posted on 02/25/2017 9:56:59 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: rodguy911

“pay for it”

Removing candy/soda from SNAP eligibility will lower the cost of caring for the Medicaid crowd.


8 posted on 02/25/2017 9:57:46 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Ray76

A whole lot of Cantorizing needs to happen.

I was sure that many more districts would follow our lead once we showed you how it’s done.


9 posted on 02/25/2017 10:00:29 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Ray76

For my money, the first step to getting this crap repealed is to enforce it as it is actually written— to include removing Congress’s exemption.


10 posted on 02/25/2017 10:05:13 AM PST by Lysandru
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To: Nifster
Utter nonsense

Till you look at the facts.

3/4ths of the Trade money represented by this tariff graph was created in the South. Southern Independence meant the direct loss of 3/4ths of all European Trade, and the idling of the bulk of the Northern Shipping/banking/warehousing/insurance industry, not to mention eventual direct competition with their textile and steel industries.

An independent South was a dire threat to the North Eastern financial interests. This is why Lincoln was willing to let them keep slavery, but was never going to allow them to have free trade with Europe.

It was about money. Specifically the money that would be lost to the Shadow Government of New York Industrialists.

11 posted on 02/25/2017 10:06:39 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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Plus the biggest problem is no longer Medicare but Medicaid thanks to the obama regime putting almost anyone who asked on medicaid. Who the hell is going to pay for it all!

An ignorant welfare recipient like Obama neither understands basic economics, nor cares who pays for his bills. He's a parasite. He thinks like a parasite, not like a contributor.

12 posted on 02/25/2017 10:08:14 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Lysandru
For my money, the first step to getting this crap repealed is to enforce it as it is actually written— to include removing Congress’s exemption.

Should have been done in the first place. I used to rage at Republicans in congress for making Obamacare more tolerable by delaying enactment of penalties and other methods they chose to soften the blow.

*NO!* It should have been made as horrible as possible to create a political earthquake that would have destroyed Obama and the Democrats, but our party of stupid decided to make it easier to tolerate instead of enforcing it the way it was originally written.

Let me re-state that. I used to think our party was just stupid. I now think it is part of the Uni-party of the shadow government and they made Obamacare tolerable because they supported the goals outlined in the "Conservative Treehouse" article linked up above.

They were working with the Democrats to help corporations shift costs of healthcare (to the taxpayers) so that they could make larger profits.

They aren't stupid, they're corrupt.

13 posted on 02/25/2017 10:13:51 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Ray76

“Article I Section. 8. The Congress shall have Power To ...raise and support Armies”

Colonel Frank Burns, Captain “Hawkeye” Pierce were fictional, but there were real M.A.S.H. units with real doctors in federal service.

Ask the Surgeon General about doctors in federal service.

Ask the doctors in the Public Health Service about doctors in federal service.

Are VA medical benefits for non-service connected medical problems Constitutional?

Why should not excise tax payers that finance US war making power be entitled to care as well as such veterans?

What about pink-hatted warriors against sexism and rainbow-suited warriors against bigotry?

They could be given commissions in the US Army under Commander-in-Chief Hillary Clinton.

Do you want Hillary Clinton to be Commander-in-Chief?

Hillary and a Democratic Congress can draft every doctor and nurse in the USA into federal medical army service.

Hillary and a Democratic Congress can take every dollar you earn via a 100% income tax under Amendment XVI after she takes the oath of office so they can be paid.

Hillary and a Democratic Congress can even draft you and make you scrub the wards on your knees.

Federal Obamacare subsidies have been ruled proper by the US Supreme Court.

Article I Section 8 The Congress shall have Power To ... exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States

Congress can vote to put big stacks of US dollars in PO boxes in the District of Columbia. State governors can come to DC to collect their stacks and Congress can let them do it.


14 posted on 02/25/2017 10:20:14 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

What a pile.


15 posted on 02/25/2017 10:42:12 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Your desire to paint everything in the shades of conspiracy is just tidiculous


16 posted on 02/25/2017 11:03:00 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Ray76

USA became and can be great, because it is the land of Private Enterprise, not because of corporations and Capitalism. Small business employees by far and away more people, and should. Corporation are legal fictions, children of government. They have the special ear of government, not we the human citizen. Capitalism is fueled largely by -money-from-thin-air-, a way to fund things which could not be funded legitimately. Banksters are empowered by this.


17 posted on 02/25/2017 11:05:23 AM PST by veracious (UN = OIC = Islam ; Democrats may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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President Trump is the first political entity in our lifetime ...

And the last. The Uni-Party and their elite.masters will make sure we never get a chance to vote for an outsider again.

18 posted on 02/25/2017 11:11:49 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Lysandru; Ray76

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For my money, the first step to getting this crap repealed is to enforce it as it is actually written— to include removing Congress’s exemption.
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Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

The whole concept of ‘except for Congress/D.C.” has got to go (vs. 14th Equal Under the Law).

Let’s see how well they play under the same laws, and repercussions they (illegally) pass upon the pleebs.


19 posted on 02/25/2017 11:34:53 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Nifster
Your desire to paint everything in the shades of conspiracy is just tidiculous

People call something a "conspiracy" when they want to delegiitimize it without actually doing any work to demonstrate that it is incorrect.

"Conspiracy" can encompass a wide scope, depending upon what you mean by the word. Is the teachers Union a "conspiracy"? Sort of. It's a group of people in the same trade attempting to increase their own income and minimize their own responsibilities.

Surely as a conservative you are familiar with Adam Smith? Adam Smith said a lot of profound things, but none more profound than this.

People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.

This has proven to be an all too common occurrence when the issue is money.

In 1861, the issue was money.

20 posted on 02/25/2017 11:34:58 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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