Posted on 02/10/2017 11:11:01 AM PST by MeganC
There are some people in California currently gathering signatures to get an initiative on the ballot to change the language in California's constitution to allow California to secede from the USA. If it passes the law will also put a question on yet another future ballot asking if Californians want to secede. If the vote is yes then it becomes their declaration of independence.
It might happen. I won't rule it out especially after 2016 in which so many 'impossible' things happened.
So what happens if California votes to secede?
Well, before they vote on independence but after they vote to enable secession I hope that Congress first acts to keep the loyal counties of California within the USA. The precedent is West Virginia being severed from Virginia when Virginia seceded. Congress can create the State of Jefferson and include the counties that want to leave California anyway. I hope they do.
California cannot be allowed to use the US dollar. If they leave they must be immediately cut off from our banking system. Otherwise they will use their access to wage economic mayhem against us and they'll also use the dollar to prop up their economy.
The US will need to think about what to do with Californians who wish to flee to loyal states. We'll also need to think about how to treat those who stay. After what point will we consider Californians to be foreigners?
The US needs to withhold funding for all long-term infrastructure projects in California. Governor Jerry Brown wants the rest of us to pay for his choo-choo train and for his hundred-billion dollar Delta Tunnels project - which will funnel water to disloyal Southern California. I know I don't want Wyoming footing part of the bill for this.
What do we do when California inevitably allies itself with Russia and/or China? Will we allow the Russians and or the Chinese to base ships, planes, and troops in California? Because you know they will.
One thing I think should also be done is to cease the recognition of all academic degrees from California and to remove California educated academics from American schools and universities. Don't let them spread the contamination!
Just starting the discussion and hoping that anyone in California who supports secession will maybe see some of the ideas we all post here and then take a moment to consider the potential downsides of their independence.
you believe in the totalitarian state ?
that’s not conservative
What happens to California land owned by native Americans. To they have a voice in this secession movement?
I like it
Please explain how that became your statement to follow mine. Then I will know how to respond.
you believe the central state is allmighty and the will of the people can be ignored
If I were a tyrant, I would not permit the dissidents to leave peacefully in order to settle someplace else that has already adopted the modes of life so cherished by the disenfranchised. I strongly encourage those unhappy people to find another place to reside, perhaps even assist in their move.
Sample Nations that have adopted the methods of governanance desired by some Californians are Cuba, Cambodia, China, and Venezuela. Oh, those Utopian governments typically don't let their people migrate.
Liberals just can't seem to look at history and derive the reasonable conclusions. We would be much better off without them. I am not a tyrant; however, I am a pragmatist and a realist. Those folks who wish to leave are the tyrants, quite unable to accept the outcome of a valid election. They wish to impose their will on anyone who does not see things their way even when they are the obvious minority.
Ponder deeply, if you can.
” The land mass known as California belongs to all of The People of this Nation”
Mao or Stalin would agree 1000% with your statement.
“When in the course of humans events ....” is something your should reread
We are, as a Nation, at a place that is caused by failure to negotiate or compromise solutions. Those leftist folks are, from my perspective, are the tyrants. First the agree to hold a vote under a predetermined set of rules; and then they throw a hissy fit when their poor choice for a candidate loses.
I am well read regarding the formation and intended functioning of this Nation. All is well except for the commies within who would rend it asunder.
Lincoln was a murderous tyrant.
Whatever. Kalifornicans are mostly worthless traitors.
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