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Chaffetz Kills Public Lands Bill After Backlash From Sporting Community
The Resurgent ^ | February 02, 2017 | Gabriella Hoffman

Posted on 02/02/2017 12:40:03 PM PST by Sheapdog

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To: Sheapdog

If it stays Fed land, the various agencies can forbid nearly all human presence and activity.

If it sells to private owners, they also put fences around it and forbid all human presence.

If it goes to the states, it can be available and overseen by each state, which really has the best interest of the people and the land at the same time.


21 posted on 02/02/2017 1:49:33 PM PST by lurk (TEat)
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To: Sheapdog

Chaffetz is right—it should be sold, the sales proceeds used to pay down the national debt, the local governments can put the property on the tax rolls, and the private owners could put the property to profitable use. If the hunters want to purchase it, let them bid on it.


22 posted on 02/02/2017 1:54:00 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: lurk

The argument against the state ownership of these lands is that when the states get into financial trouble they will look to sell the land to the highest bidder. Fed Gov can hold these lands in trust for all Americans.

We should work to open access to all Federal lands where possible.

My understanding is that a lot of the lands identified in this withdrawn bill included land that was Fed owned but did not have public access. The lands were surrounded by private property and are not being used.

Sportsmen didn’t want to start the precedent of selling off public lands, even if they could not readily access the lands.


23 posted on 02/02/2017 2:01:49 PM PST by CollegeRepublican
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To: Sheapdog

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The Fed Gov does not have legitimate title to most of the lands that the bill affected.

They cannot sell them; they should just step aside so that the states that really own them can decide their fate.
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24 posted on 02/02/2017 2:05:41 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: goodnesswins

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>> “Selling it? Give it back to its rightful owners...the states” <<

Correctamundo!
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25 posted on 02/02/2017 2:06:42 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Davy Crocket; Reno89519

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The Guadalupe Hidalgo Treaty did not give the US Gov title to any lands that were in private use.

The only lands that were not in private use were the high ridges. All arable and grazable lands are rightly privately owned.
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26 posted on 02/02/2017 2:13:59 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Reno89519

Terrible move.the land belongs to people, INDIVIDUALLY. If you want “access,” buy it.

US govt should own only a bare minimum of “parks”, most of which you can’t do anything on.


27 posted on 02/02/2017 2:33:08 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the 4Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Reno89519

Give lands back to the states though. Cut out the Feds.


28 posted on 02/02/2017 2:57:14 PM PST by jch10 (President Trump, President Trump, President Trump! I just love saying that!)
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To: editor-surveyor

I don’t believe that the Federal Government should hold it either.. Give it to the people.. They used to give homesteaders grant or they could give it to the state. I’m just saying that the left thinks since it;s the Federal Governments then they own it and will stop everybody from using it period..


29 posted on 02/02/2017 3:13:44 PM PST by Davy Crocket
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To: treetopsandroofs

As the Fraud taught us (and veterans), public land can be petulantly closed off to punish us for not marching in lock-step with the fascist domestic enemy.

That’s it.. It’s like the cattle grazing thing..


30 posted on 02/02/2017 3:15:00 PM PST by Davy Crocket
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To: Reno89519
Good move. Keep these in public so we the people have access!

Another retard?

The BLM employs the dumbest laziest delusional goldbricks in existence.

An Average IQ of around 65.

And those unelected imbeciles WILL decide if we can visit their private playground or not!

31 posted on 02/02/2017 4:44:57 PM PST by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: Davy Crocket

Welcome to FR, n00b!


32 posted on 02/02/2017 6:36:07 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Davy Crocket
The problem is that the left thinks they own it and would impose limits so the public couldn’t use it.

Indeed. Over the years I have seen wilderness trails go from "No Motorized Vehicles" (okay) to "Foot Traffic Only" to "Access Restricted" to "No Public Access".

All those talking about "public access" will never set foot on that land. Better it be sold off, and put on the tax rolls as the land is developed.

These kinds of comments remind me of a Maine resident who complained about the city people who wanted to keep Maine rural so once a year, they could come up North, look around for 15 minutes, say, "Boy, that's a pretty sight" and then remove themselves to their hotel spa and pool.

33 posted on 02/02/2017 6:54:23 PM PST by Oatka
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