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USA Today writer: Curt Schilling’s politics are keeping him out of the Hall of Fame
Canada Free Press ^ | 01/19/17 | Dan Calabrese

Posted on 01/19/2017 10:57:02 AM PST by Sean_Anthony

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To: oh8eleven
Here's the problem with someone like Sanchez ...

If he turns into a phenomenal offensive player, the Yankees will be under a lot of pressure to reduce his workload behind the plate and put him somewhere else in the lineup. I know he put up some ridiculous offensive numbers down the stretch last year, but I don't know if he's such a superb defensive catcher that they'd leave him behind the plate for a decade or more.

21 posted on 01/19/2017 11:38:52 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Sean_Anthony

Matt Stairs also didn’t get in and he was, although for only a short time a Tiger.


22 posted on 01/19/2017 11:39:44 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Alberta's Child

If Schilling had pitched for the Twins or the Angels or any other team other than the Red Sox when he went against the Yankees, he would be mostly forgotten by now.


23 posted on 01/19/2017 11:45:58 AM PST by wrcase
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To: ilgipper

That statement is about as believable as a CNN poll.


24 posted on 01/19/2017 11:46:04 AM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: wrcase

Well, he was co-MVP of the 2001 World Series when the Diamondbacks beat the Yankees.


25 posted on 01/19/2017 11:53:22 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Sean_Anthony

Of course he is. Sports writers write for the major newspapers and major sports online pages. The grand majority of them went to Northwestern Journalism School and it is liberal to your high top sneakers. Thus, they are all liberals.


26 posted on 01/19/2017 11:55:07 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Believe or not, we R in the Last Days of human history. Jesus is coming back, & soon! RU saved?)
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To: dfwgator

And one of the sport’s largest steroid users. He like Sammy Sosa gained huge pounds of muscles on steroids. When they both had to stop, both got immediately skinny again.


27 posted on 01/19/2017 11:56:26 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Believe or not, we R in the Last Days of human history. Jesus is coming back, & soon! RU saved?)
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To: Alberta's Child

But that’s not what he’s remembered by. I don’t think Bill Mazeroski goes into the Hall if his Game 7 winning homer is against the Detroit Tigers or the Cleveland Indians. The 50’s were only the “Golden Age of Baseball” if you lived in New York. Between 1947-1957 17 of the 22 teams in the World Series were from New York.


28 posted on 01/19/2017 12:00:36 PM PST by wrcase
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Exactly...that game 7 kept you on your feet and it gave me a big headache!! It was great.


29 posted on 01/19/2017 12:00:38 PM PST by hsmomx3 (Love my Steelers!!)
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To: wrcase
Maybe so. If that's the case, then Schilling also would have been forgotten if he helped the Red Sox win the 2004 ALCS against the Yankees, only to have Boston lose in the World Series.

I think there will eventually be several players from that Red Sox team whose Hall of Fame credentials might end up a bit inflated because of their role in ending "the Curse of Babe Ruth."

30 posted on 01/19/2017 12:04:03 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Alberta's Child

Yes. The era of the 300-Win pitcher is over yet the benchmark persists. A bunch of pitchers who just missed that mark will have to be reconsidered before the get back to Schilling. By then he’ll be a veterans committee selection.


31 posted on 01/19/2017 12:20:31 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: wrcase

Mazeroski should not be in the HOF. He is proof that HOF isn’t necessarily truly the best. Although, compared to other HOFs, I like their more stringent standards in baseball.


32 posted on 01/19/2017 12:22:58 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Herman Ball

Curt was a very tough and competitive baseball pitcher just as he is tough and competitive in life. He was and is a winner. Can’t say the same about those wack job, liberal, loser sports writers who couldn’t hold a candle to Curt in any way.


33 posted on 01/19/2017 12:33:35 PM PST by Sam Clements
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“If Curt had been a sniveling, snowflake Democrat, he would have been in the HOF already.”

In the HoF for what?

No Cy Young Awards.

Just over 200 Wins.

He is not HoF material.


34 posted on 01/19/2017 12:46:26 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: Tallguy
I believe the 300-win benchmark only persists because MLB has seen some pitchers who reached that mark get inducted into the Hall of Fame in recent years (Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine and Randy Johnson).

I'm not sure if the pitching role will even have a major threshold anymore that almost guarantees induction into the Hall of Fame (300 wins, 3000 strikeouts, etc.). Pitching has changed so much in recent years that relief pitchers are becoming more important to a team's success, and the nature of starting pitching is such that there are a number of good-but-not-great pitchers in the 250+ win category ... Andy Pettitte, Mike Mussina and Jamie Moyer come to mind.

35 posted on 01/19/2017 1:07:18 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: the OlLine Rebel
I think the Hockey Hall of Fame probably has pretty stringent standards -- especially when you consider that it includes hockey players from all over the world, not just the NHL.

The NFL has the least stringent standards because they have a minimum number of inductees every year regardless of how strong the contenders are. But the NFL also has the most difficult types of players to measure for Hall of Fame consideration, with specialists at every position and a lot of great careers curtailed by injury or mediocre teams.

36 posted on 01/19/2017 1:09:51 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Timpanagos1
I agree with you about Schilling, but ...

If Tim Raines can get into the Hall of Fame with his numbers, then I wouldn't dismiss anyone on the basis of career statistics alone.

37 posted on 01/19/2017 1:11:43 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Alberta's Child

And yet a dominant closer in relief will often be well-traveled as he becomes an expensive luxury to a team that is rebuilding and a good trade commodity.


38 posted on 01/19/2017 2:09:00 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: reasonisfaith

I know! They have been very focused on Curt getting a raw deal. I am shocked. Usually, they’d be at the center of the attack.


39 posted on 01/19/2017 3:12:40 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: Tallguy
I think dominant closers are well-traveled because they are rarely dominant for more than a few years, and teams like to trade them or let them go as free agents before they decline quickly.

The two best closers of the last 25 years were Mariano Rivera and Trevor Hoffman. Rivera spent his entire career with the Yankees, and Hoffman spent most of his career with the Padres.

40 posted on 01/19/2017 3:17:08 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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