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1 posted on 01/07/2017 10:25:43 AM PST by Starman417
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One question I haven't heard asked by/of all the dimwits pushing this fairytale is: Why?

Why would the Russians prefer Trump over Clinton? The notion that Clinton would be "tougher" on the Russians is absurd. All Putin would need to do is write a check to the Clinton Foundation and Hillary would do whatever he asked.

2 posted on 01/07/2017 10:35:20 AM PST by wny
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The simple fact is that the sloppy Hillary Clinton, who has always been disdainful of security personnel and measures, and the pompous Podesta were easily hacked by Russians and others who were perennially targeting Americans and agencies for information. Obama’s counter intelligence efforts were lacking and in the final analysis failed to protect the nations secrets. The Left is projecting its frustrations and failures on the big bad bogeymen Russians. They spy and we spy. Apparently they spy better. History will always show that Obama came off second best to Putin in all encounters and despite his antipathy and interference was not able to stop Netanyahu or prevent his reelection.


3 posted on 01/07/2017 10:36:16 AM PST by allendale
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Its yesterdsys news to me.


4 posted on 01/07/2017 10:36:36 AM PST by Daniel Ramsey (MAGA)
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What bothers me... is that nothing would have been said about it if Hillary had won the election. I sincerely believe this.

Another point: Democrats are whining about the lack of IT security and how damaging it is (or was) yet they weren't that upset about the security of Hillary's email server. As a matter of fact, they defended Hillarys decision to risk national security so that she could carry on here quid-pro-quo and money laundering operations at the expense and risk of national security.

Thirdly, Democrats are not claiming that the information discovered in Podesta’s and the DNC emails was wrong. They are only complaining about the fact that they “got caught.”

Lastly, apparently Podesta is an idiot. Only an idiot would use “password” as their password.

5 posted on 01/07/2017 10:39:08 AM PST by dhs12345
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Obama allowed a lot of things that don’t make sense. He and the DNC are responsible for the hacking of the DNC. Obama was terribly slow to respond to ISIS and to Putin’s aggression. The best explanations is that he believed his own false narrative, a narrative designed solely for political purposes.


7 posted on 01/07/2017 10:41:40 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
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Folks- all this “Trump’s presidency isn’t legitimate’ is payback for the birther attempts against current president- You are going to see years of ‘russian hacking’ and ‘stolen election’ accusations by the left- ESPECIALLY now that the traitors lindsay and Mccain gave the left the green light by jumping on board the accusations themselves and calling for investigations- McCain’s Nose was bent because he didn’t get nominated- and it was further bent when trump stated what he did about being captured-

This election hacking crap is payback- plain and simple- We might as well Hunker down- because it’s going to get loud and nasty for the next 4 to 8 years-


9 posted on 01/07/2017 10:42:47 AM PST by Bob434
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"The Russians had an axe to grind with Hillary Clinton for her having meddled in their elections: Their rocky relationships goes back to her tenure as secretary of state and as senator"

John Podesta’s Payoff for Helping Hillary Give American Military Technology to Russia’s Putin
TheNewAmerican.com ^ | October, 2016 | Bob Adelmann

11 posted on 01/07/2017 10:51:31 AM PST by ETL (On the road to America's recovery!)
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What really “bothers” me is that I cannot trust this administration nor any of its weaponized agencies....not a single one of em....nada.
Till Trump takes over, cleans the socialists/globalists out, and re-establishes the confidence (if he can) of the American people in the system, will I ever believe anything out of them.


12 posted on 01/07/2017 10:53:11 AM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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God himself “hacked” the DNC by causing fools to behave foolishly. Pride and arrogance made the Clintonistas careless, and haughty condescension transformed some of their Democrat allies into resentful enemies who leaked the dirt to Assange. I suspect many of the loudest voices accusing “the Russians” are doing so to mask their own betrayals of the hated Clinton machine.


15 posted on 01/07/2017 11:03:05 AM PST by Always A Marine
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Oct 2016

WikiLeaks Show How Clinton Campaign Chair John Podesta Became ‘Business Partners with Vladimir Putin’

“...WikiLeaks emails provide proof that the “Clintons have a long and lucrative history of financial deals with the Russians, particularly with the Russian government.”

Schweizer explained the “deep ties” the Clintons have to Russia, specifically how in 2010 then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton approved the sale and transfer of 20% of U.S. uranium output to the Russian government ...”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/22/schweizer-wikileaks-show-clinton-campaign-chair-john-podesta-became-business-partners-vladimir-putin/

18 posted on 01/07/2017 11:07:34 AM PST by ETL (On the road to America's recovery!)
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Who’s in Putin’s Pocket — Clinton or Trump? (Clinton Uranium RussiaGate scandal)

The New American ^ | August 3, 2016 | William F. Jasper

"according to some calculations, the Uranium One deal, involving top Clinton donors Frank Guistra and Ian Telfer, has transferred as much as 50 percent of projected American uranium production to Kremlin control."

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RUSSIAGATE

Who paid Bill Clinton's $2.5 million commission & $500,000 speaking fee (US uranium to Russia)

qura.com ^ | July 27, 2016 | Sierra Spaulding

Who paid Bill Clinton's $2.5 million commission and $500k speaking fee for brokering the sale of 20% of America's uranium deposits to Russia?

You are speaking about a really interesting deal that ended up giving Vladimir Putin and the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States.

Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. ..."


19 posted on 01/07/2017 11:08:15 AM PST by ETL (On the road to America's recovery!)
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Those ginning up hysteria over unsubstantiated claims that the Russian government channeled email evidence of Clinton corruption to WikiLeaks, need to answer the following:

Was the American electorate better informed and enabled to evaluate Hillary Clinton by exposure of the Wikileak-ed emails, or if the public had been denied this information? The answer is obvious, as is the obvious conclusion: if the Russians played any role in this, they increased transparency, enlightened the electorate, and thus enhanced democracy.


22 posted on 01/07/2017 11:17:18 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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The American people should be eternally grateful to the Russians if they really did prevent a low class scum bag like Hillary Clinton from becoming our President.
23 posted on 01/07/2017 11:22:05 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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Spying, in general, bothers me-but it's been going on since man could go from camp to camp. What really bothers me is the 'evil mailman' mentality-whoever delivered the info it was the INFO that was important! If there had been nothing detrimental what could anyone have hacked to hurt anyone? I don't care if aliens who want to EAT me give me vital information as long as the information is true and I can use it! Hillary did the dirt-whoever put on the light so we could see it is secondary. Why the hackers did it-IMO- is that they hate Hillary/Obama more than Trump. Could it be that Hillary is perceived as a brain-damaged harridan that no semi-intelligent/sane governments want to deal with? Could it be that even if Trump isn't loved he is considered more stable and sane?

I don't care WHO the hackers are- there will be more in this computer age, it's up to us to protect ourselves-I care WHAT they revealed. All of this drama is like caring more about why someone called in a fire alarm instead of dispatching the trucks to put out the fire!
24 posted on 01/07/2017 11:22:53 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam- it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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Most of what they cited as ‘proof’ was not IP addresses or anything else. It was stories about Russians congratulating themselves......from 2012


25 posted on 01/07/2017 11:37:34 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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The Dems are pushing this for a very real and (for them) necessary reason.

The Dems went heavier into voter fraud this election cycle than ever before. They believed they’d win across the board with all the fraud combined with their full ownership of both print and broadcast news and opinion. So, there was no viable threat that their rabid criminality would be exposed.

But, they lost. Now there’s no protection built into the system for them by their own ownership of all the federal venues of investigation.

So, there has to be someone else appointed and anointed as the source and cause of all that massive voter fraud.

And that’s why the narrative has morphed from “hacked the Clinton servers for wikileaks” to “hacked the elections”.

The DNC is not now, nor has it been for decades, anything other than an organized crime outfit. There are no innocents on the left anymore.


26 posted on 01/07/2017 11:39:23 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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"The Russian people, like people everywhere, deserve the right to have their voices heard and their votes counted," Clinton said. "And that means they deserve free, fair, transparent elections and leaders who are accountable to them."

She has uttered a true statement. I'll alert the New York Times.

30 posted on 01/07/2017 12:23:26 PM PST by Concentrate (ex-texan was right. And Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election. (Look up Pizzagat)
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Everything from the “Russians hacked” is so ambiguous the goal is to have people assume Russians were hiding in the vote machines changing votes. Hacking an email with “password” as the password does not take any skills. Hillary’s “hacked” emails were released by the state department AFTER the FBI recovered them. Podesta fell for the stupid spam phishing emails and someone at the DNC leaked to Wikileaks. I believe Assange more than anything coming out of the current administration.


33 posted on 01/07/2017 12:38:42 PM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency

If that's what the Russians were doing, then they did a very poor job of it. All we heard 24/7 was how amazing Hillary was from every msm and how dangerous Trump was.

34 posted on 01/07/2017 1:45:21 PM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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When has the left ever been upset about stealing information and revealing corruption?... when its a Dem’s corruption


35 posted on 01/07/2017 4:14:41 PM PST by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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