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To: x; PeaRidge; rockrr; DiogenesLamp
x quoting Colwell: "The idea now pretty extensively entertained in the South, that New York is fattening on Southern trade and business is an utter delusion: New York is not piling up 'Northern profits on Southern wealth.'
It is a misconception, which no unprejudiced man can entertain, if he will take the trouble to examine."

I'm having trouble following the discussion, but this quote does help.
If I understand: Kettell proposed Northerners were, in effect, stealing Southern wealth and Colwell tried to rebut that, right?

Googling Kettell & Colwell produces limited data, though it appears both publications are still available, for about $20 each.
I'll probably skip them...

Bottom line is, I'm not inclined to believe that Southern slave-masters were in any way being "ripped off" by Northern shippers & business interests, certainly in no way comparable to the degree of rip-off of slaves themselves!
But I would possibly concede that highly effective anti-North propaganda made Southerners feeeeeeeeel "ripped-off".

646 posted on 12/09/2016 7:02:24 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK
Kettell proposed Northerners were, in effect, stealing Southern wealth and Colwell tried to rebut that, right?

Yes. That is what they were arguing about.

Googling Kettell & Colwell produces limited data, though it appears both publications are still available, for about $20 each.

You can view them for free online:

Southern Wealth and Northern Profits

Southern Wealth and Northern Profits

Southern Wealth and Northern Profits

The Five Cotton States and New York

The Five Cotton States and New York

Bottom line is, I'm not inclined to believe that Southern slave-masters were in any way being "ripped off" by Northern shippers & business interests, certainly in no way comparable to the degree of rip-off of slaves themselves!

I agree. There was less realization of that at the time, but people weren't entirely unaware of what was going on. On top of that, Kettell, a New York City financial journalist drastically undervalued the services that his city and region provided to the cotton planters. Apparently, he was a Democrat and at the time that meant catering to Southern slaveholding interests and telling them what they wanted to hear.

648 posted on 12/09/2016 1:20:11 PM PST by x
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