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Education is so far left, it can’t really see the right
American Enterprise Institute ^ | November 18, 2016 | Frederick M. Hess

Posted on 11/22/2016 12:30:17 PM PST by OddLane

The past week has been extraordinary in the most literal sense. As I’ve sat on panels, talked to reporters, and huddled with folks trying to make sense of things, I’ve been struck by how differently things appear to me than to the vast majority of folks in and around education. What’s going on?

A couple things, I suspect. But the biggest one is that, when I’m trying to explain the world of education to people who don’t work in or around education, I frequently wind up telling them, “You need to understand that the center in education is two standard deviations to the left of the American public.”

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TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: academia; aei; education; highereducation; leftismoncampus; trump

1 posted on 11/22/2016 12:30:17 PM PST by OddLane
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I frequently wind up telling them, “You need to understand that the center in education is two standard deviations to the left of the American public.”

Unfortunately, most people - being public educated - don't really know what that means. It's more like "the world of education" isn't on the same street as you and I, it isn't on the same block. Hell, it's at least two towns over!"

2 posted on 11/22/2016 12:43:25 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

Public education and university education can only be described today as training grounds for future revolutionaries. No connection to reality.


3 posted on 11/22/2016 12:51:09 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: OddLane; All
Trump needs to either get the feds out of INTRAstate schooling altogether, or lead the states to ratify an education amendment to the Constitution if the states want the feds to keep sticking their big noses into intrastate education.

This is because not only did Thomas Jefferson indicate that the states would need to amend the Constitution to give the states the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for intrastate schooling purposes, something that the states have never done, but also consider the following.

Using wide language, a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that powers that the states have not expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds, the specific power to dictate policy for intrastate schools in this example, are prohibited to the feds.


4 posted on 11/22/2016 12:52:05 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: rockrr

Leftards don’t even understand arithmetic, let alone statistics. (Though it’s so close to “statist”, you’d think they would)


5 posted on 11/22/2016 12:54:56 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: OddLane; Liz; yoe; Clintonfatigued; justiceseeker93; Netz; Nachum; vette6387; ...

A Nation at Risk: The Imperative for Educational Reform is the 1983 report of American President Ronald Reagan’s National Commission on Excellence in Education. Its publication is considered a landmark event in modern American educational history.

From the report: “...If an unfriendly foreign power had attempted to impose on America the mediocre educational performance that exists today, we might well have viewed it as an act of war...”


6 posted on 11/22/2016 1:18:05 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: OddLane
I have known this since my college days in the late sixties and seventies.

The teens indoctrinated by the SDS anti-war college profs became licensed teachers, who have mostly now retired from their missionary dedication to pass on rejection of American principles to our children. They have succeeded, overwhelmingly.

The subsequent generations have followed their lead. Why do we not understand this? Why are we sending our own children off to universities ruled by them?

7 posted on 11/22/2016 1:36:31 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: OddLane

I’m at LAUSD and yes, yes it is.


8 posted on 11/22/2016 1:46:54 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: OddLane

Asking forgiveness in advance for what I have posted on other threads for years:

My mother was a typist for the FBI in WWII, and saw the commies plans to take over the USA from within.

A key element was to take over all the education system to brainwash Marxism in young minds from K-highest education - first by taking over the EDU and Journalism departments in higher ed, who would brainwash all future teachers and journalists. In time, 90% of all in education and journalism would be theirs, and the brainwashing of the nation would be almost complete.

They have succeeded, and continue to pump out new generations of dumbed-down Marxist/atheists.

Until someone figures out how to reverse this, our rule of the nation will always be short and temporary.

And I have yet to hear a solution from the best conservative minds there are.

Still waiting........


9 posted on 11/22/2016 2:41:37 PM PST by Arlis
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To: rockrr

Pop quiz: Using the diagram above, determine what percentage of the American public is to the political right of the center of the world of education, according to the statement, "the center in education is two standard deviations to the left of the American public."

No time limit.

10 posted on 11/22/2016 3:36:08 PM PST by dr_lew (I)
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To: OddLane

Both the educational establishment and the “news” media are so far to the left that they consider anyone to the right of the 30th percentile to be a “right wingnut.”


11 posted on 11/22/2016 3:52:47 PM PST by chb
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To: dr_lew

I’m thinking that it would be all but the 2.3% under the three left-most divisions of the standard curve or 97.7% of the American public.


12 posted on 11/22/2016 3:55:12 PM PST by Bob (No, being a US Senator and the Secretary of State are not veauccomplishments; they're jobs.)
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To: Arlis

Well, insofar as personal greed stands in opposition to Marxism, I think we have a fair program going. Trump won, didn’t he?

I don’t mean this to mock him, honestly. Greed is just a nasty name for personal self-interest.


13 posted on 11/22/2016 3:56:08 PM PST by dr_lew (I)
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To: Bob

That’s what I got.


14 posted on 11/22/2016 3:59:01 PM PST by dr_lew (I)
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To: dr_lew

Greed is NOT an equivalent and absolute attribute of success.

Greed is a sin as common with leftists (e.g., Clintons) as with success in business and rooted in selfishness and ego. It is part of the fallen human condition.

Success in business has, I would say, far more in common with the trait of self-sacrifice, kindness and generosity to those less well-off than greed.

Self-interest and selfishness are not the same thing. Selfishness is always wrong, and I’d say it abounds more amongst liberals and Marxists than free-enterprise folk.

Self-interest and generosity/kindness towards those less well-off are often found together, and are surely not mutually exclusive.

Is Trump greedy? Motivated by greed? I dare say we cannot judge. He clearly is kind and generous to many, especially his hard-working employees, who almost universally commend him.

I see a man rather driven by two things: success in whatever he does, and seeing things done well and done right - and done quickly. Can he be arrogant, and narcissitic? Clearly he can.

In contract, Obama is inherently a narcissist and arrogant - they are core elements of hi nature.

I don’t believe that to be true of Trump.

PS: I started and owned several successful businesses - and often paid my employees more than I paid myself.....and often paid my employees when I paid myself nothing. It was the right thing to do - and almost always ended up benefitting the companies.


15 posted on 11/22/2016 6:20:46 PM PST by Arlis
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To: Arlis

I was just thinking of my grandchildren, whose word for “greed” is “need”, as in the phrase “I NEEEEED it!”

They’re very young and were by proxy big Hillary fans, just in reflection of their parents views, but my thought was that their overriding concerning for their own personal wants and needs puts them on a collision course with the liberal ideology they are being imbued with.

Just a thought! I do take it seriously, but I don’t take it as dogma by any means. I know it’s complicated.


16 posted on 11/22/2016 6:36:45 PM PST by dr_lew (I)
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To: Arlis
Not intending to offend, but apparently you either do not know where to look and/or what to look for. The possible solutions have been discussed and are known, but effective implementation would have to be rather dramatic and quite sudden, revolutionary, not evolutionary in nature.

The eminent, but recently deceased Judge Robert Bork outlined the causes and remedies in his writings. Take a look at one of his concise summaries, an excerpt of which appears in my Post #111 on another thread (click here), and in its sequel, Post #112.

The problem is that we of supposedly social, intellectual, and moral mature age simply refuse to hear the andswer, and deliberately at accordingly

Instead of standing up and if need be standing alone, we cave in and follow the crowd, whining as we go.

Resuscitating the historical Bible-based family as the center of both government and education is the only hope we have. nothing else will do. Nothing else works; never has, and never will.

Hope you're listening to this, my FRiend.

17 posted on 11/22/2016 7:05:28 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: dr_lew
Pop quiz: Using the diagram above, . . ."

This is not a mathematical tool that you can apply to the concepts you have in mind. Politics is multidimensional, and you do not even have the ability to quantify or measure the terms you are using.

Lest you think I'm talking through my hat, one of my professional areas of expertise was experimental design, and I developed systems of linear equations to predict the behavior of the combinations of ingredients that affect several properties of a product's behavior, using manipulation of matrices.

A human being is far more complex than you seem to perceive.

18 posted on 11/22/2016 7:25:39 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Please note my exercise was premised on the question as already framed, and I think the question of a measure of position on the political spectrum is left moot.

I will say that the beauty of statistics is that it will apply to whatever objective measure you care to devise, however you care to interpret it.


19 posted on 11/22/2016 7:42:09 PM PST by dr_lew (I)
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To: Arlis
And I have yet to hear a solution from the best conservative minds there are.

Damned commies...can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em...YET!

20 posted on 11/23/2016 8:23:43 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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