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To: central_va
You have no monopoly on care about "ascendant socialism in the USA" but you have not demonstrated that it is caused by "idling our workforce" in the name of globalization and profit margins.

First, we ought to recognize the distinction between exporting jobs by way of the Internet to India and exporting manufacturing jobs, for example, to China on the one hand and imposing tariffs on legitimate imports that honestly compete on the other hand.

Second, we ought to at least have some understanding of whether it is "globalization" that is causing the malaise in the American economy or whether it is mostly regulations and taxes. There is a great weight of opinion that insists that it is the latter and not the former. If we do not know what is causing the problems we simply don't know how to fix it.

Heretofore, the problem has not been a one of tariffs, in my judgment, but a want of diligence in enforcing the treaty rules. Even where we are up against foreign courts who may be be biased, we have not exhausted or even pursued our remedies. We have not jawboned and we have not effectively used are considerable weight as a consumer nation. That we should do but that is an entirely different matter from willy-nilly imposing tariffs.

Before we punish our own consumers, tax our own economy with tariffs, punish our own exporters by guaranteeing retaliatory tariffs, we ought to know what the hell we are talking about. And we certainly ought not to act in reflex.


25 posted on 11/16/2016 4:40:22 AM PST by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
You have no monopoly on care about "ascendant socialism in the USA" but you have not demonstrated that it is caused by "idling our workforce" in the name of globalization and profit margins.

Now that is funny right there. Are you on crack?

26 posted on 11/16/2016 4:48:16 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: nathanbedford
Before we punish our own consumers, tax our own economy with tariffs,

I would prefer the tariff, which is optional and consumption based, over the income tax which IMO a form of punishmsnt.

27 posted on 11/16/2016 4:50:51 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: nathanbedford

“Even where we are up against foreign courts who may be be biased...”

Why does the United States, supposedly a sovereign nation, agree to submit its economy to foreign courts empaneled with judges who know nothing about trade and care nothing about the best interests of the United States?


73 posted on 11/16/2016 5:47:54 AM PST by odawg
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To: nathanbedford

Pterosaur necessary tool of government to protect American industry from capture by foreign government-owned companies. The Red Chinese Army owns a lot of the business in China and they been eating our lunch because our government hasn’t been protecting us from THEIR government.


91 posted on 11/16/2016 6:24:20 AM PST by WMarshal (Trump 2016 - because the Democrats are criminals and the GOP is the Gang Of Pussies)
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