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1 posted on 10/23/2016 1:35:44 PM PDT by Ravnagora
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Ping.


2 posted on 10/23/2016 1:37:09 PM PDT by Ravnagora
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To: Ravnagora

And Clinton bombed this WWII allied member to get his BJ story off the front page...


3 posted on 10/23/2016 1:42:53 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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There were few corners of Europe the Nazis didn’t stain with the blood of innocents. It must never be allowed to happen again.


4 posted on 10/23/2016 1:44:07 PM PDT by IronJack
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Ravnagora, it’s too painful to read the whole story. I have heard it in detail from the granddaughter of a Serb farmer turned fighter who actually survived the Concentration Camp. Grandmother and other villagers survived destruction of village by hiding in forests. Such strong and simple people in one lifetime endured Nazism, Communism, Fascism and today “South American” style corruption that caused the granddaughter to leave her beloved home/family to seek her fortune in America.


5 posted on 10/23/2016 1:47:21 PM PDT by The Westerner ("Giving Away the Internet or Any Part of It Is Sheer Lunacy" Jim Robinson)
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Memory Eternal!

Vyechnaya Pamyat!

7 posted on 10/23/2016 2:36:27 PM PDT by lightman (I'm nobody special...just a follower of the siren call of the Ison.)
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To: Ravnagora

And now the muslims run wild over Europe our leaders sit on their nuts watching the world burn with the rise of the Islamonazis!!


8 posted on 10/23/2016 2:57:39 PM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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I had an elderly neighbor years ago who emigrated to the USA from Serbia after WW2. She told me that without any explanation, the NAZIs came into her village one morning and took her husband with all the other men and teenage boys and marched them out of the village. None of them were ever seen again. I never pressed her for more info because even at 87 years of age I could tell it was still a very painful memory for her. I have occasionally wondered the reason why the Germans killed all those innocent men and boys, and guess this explains it.

Very sad and tragic.


10 posted on 10/23/2016 3:47:55 PM PDT by Roger Kaputnik (Just because I'm paranoid doesn't prove that they aren't out to get me.)
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The Serbian resistance forces under the command of Serbia’s General Draza Mihailovich not only threatened Germany’s southern flank in Europe and her occupation of Serbia after Yugoslavia fell to Hitler in April of 1941, but critically delayed Hitler’s planned attack on the Soviet Union that summer.

Generally ignorant of Nazi over-running of Yugoslavia, I noticed the name Mihailovich on a old, finish-worn, 380 FN pistol I'd bought at a gun show.

11 posted on 10/23/2016 4:11:00 PM PDT by Does so (Hillary Defended TWO Rapists: Thomas Alfred Taylor and Slick Willie ==8-O)
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F**king Kraut bastards. Every time I hear some idiot moaning about how horrible Dresden was I point them to The Holocaust and to lesser known stories like this. If The Allies had turned every German city into a Dresden in 1943 instead of 1945 the war in Europe would have been over a lot sooner.


12 posted on 10/23/2016 4:36:40 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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I just finished teaching a class on Leningrad during the war. As bad as Hitler was, as evil as the Nazis were/are, Stalin and his commie buddies were worse by a lot. As was Mao.


13 posted on 10/23/2016 4:52:53 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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OUTSTANDING post; thread. Thanks.

History ALERT/BUMP!


14 posted on 10/23/2016 6:17:03 PM PDT by PGalt
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from a redit poster...

what do you know about history that most other people dont know? (self.history)

[–]raptorhead 205 points 1 year ago

Most people are surprised to hear that the British, after WW2, shipped many allied Serbians who fought under British command off to be executed by the communists in Yugoslavia.

During WW2, the British commanded some Serbian partisans. My grandfather and many other men who I know served in those units. After the war, the British put the Serb units into a camp near Eboli in Italy. They were prisoners. The Brits were negotiating with the communists in Yugoslavia. They were shipping men primarily affiliated with the royalists back to be imprisoned or executed as part of the post-war dealings between the Allies and the communists. The UK government took men who fought against the Nazis and sent them to the communists to be killed.
My grandfather and others were able to escape by tunneling out of the camp, past the fences and the tanks that were positioned inward. It’s a little known betrayal on the part of the Brits against men who suffered horrific tragedies at the hands of the Nazis.

My grandfather lived in Kragujevic. Before he joined the fighting, other partisans in the hills had attacked some Nazi soldiers. They slaughtered the Germans... cut their genitals off and stuffed them in their mouths. Hitler was furious and ordered a massacre. 2,000 people were made to dig their graves and were machine-gunned. My grandfather wasn’t hit and survived by hiding under bodies. Drenched in blood, he escaped into the woods when it was clear. He found a partisan unit under British command. Luckily, he was able to survive both the massacre, the fighting, the British betrayal and eventually make it to America.

I grew up hearing these stories from the men who lived them. There wasn’t any lingering resentment against the British. War is hell. I’m just glad so many were able to escape and make it to America. Oddly enough, most of those men and their families eventually made it to the British sector in West Germany where they lived in refugee camps until they were able to move somewhere else. My mother was born in the camps. They came to the US in 1958.

I’m happy to answer any questions if anyone has some. My grandfather passed in 2013 at the age of 92. He worked full time as a shoe repair up until two weeks before he died.

https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/33e2gc/what_do_you_know_about_history_that_most_other/


15 posted on 10/23/2016 6:42:34 PM PDT by PGalt
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PIng


16 posted on 10/23/2016 8:20:15 PM PDT by lightman (I'm nobody special...just a follower of the siren call of the Ison.)
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To: Ravnagora

Thank you for this excellent post.


18 posted on 10/26/2016 9:59:55 AM PDT by Dragonfly
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