Posted on 10/13/2016 6:29:08 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The problem with the analysis is that there really are no Red States or Blue States. That’s a function of the two major political parties.
The dividing lines aren’t by state, or by county, or city/town, or neighborhood.
The divisions are door to door.
It would be a terrible mess.
Takers vs Makers?
For the individual American (that is spelled with a “c”), there are only 3 palatable solutions if hitlery gets in.
1. Emigrate to a country with like minded expats.
2. Secession with Texas at the center of a new nation
3. A military coup with the installation of a benevolent dictator.
Voting will not matter anymore. Article 5 is a joke. CW2 along with WW3 will make the US the most dangerous place in the world.
That was a great 4 months.
Awful lot of FReepers seem to be hoping for such a thing, though. I sincerely hope that they're wrong.
Should through some mischance or rigged counting of ballots, Herself is elevated to the office of Presidency, the bifurcation and possible balkanization of that territory once known as The United States of America” will be well under way.
Now, this can be amicable, or it can be with a great deal of bad feelings.
Divide the country, not on state or even county boundaries, but by congressional districts. Those that went “red”, be allowed to organize into a separate nation, based on the constitutional principles that once governed the United States of America. Those that went “blue” may set up whatever kind of cockamamie socialist-theocratic-tyrannical-despotic regimes they like, but the it would then be incumbent on the “red” districts to strictly limit and use extreme vetting on any individuals who wished to migrate back into the “red” districts from “blue” districts. Those who cannot stand the prosperity that would arise in the “red” districts would be free to depart for any of the “blue” districts that would accept them, but it would be a strictly one-way-one-time choice, no reneges or do-overs.
I spent yesterday in the “other country.” I was with my extended family breaking the Yom Kippur fast. I walked in knowing not to touch the subject of the election because I’d be the only person in the place who was a Trump supporter. The driveway and street filled with lexuses, hybrids, bmw’s and one Tesla.
I walked into the kitchen to hear a conversation in progress where a man was saying “I just can’t wait till this election is OVER.” Several others agreed enthusiastically. Then he went on. “What Hillary needs to do after the election is....” and no one skipped a beat. They all ASSUME Hillary will win. They seem to KNOW she will win.
Now, these are bleeding heart libs. They brag about the little volunteer work they do and act like they care so much.... but it is the poor illegals they care for, the REFUGEES, all the wrong people. Then they hop into their shining new expensive cars and plan their next expensive vacation. They think they are so good and caring.
I don’t like their world.
I’m actually much more open to finding a common ground that can appeal to 80% of people - enough conservativism to be sane, enough liberalism to appease the terminally offended, but not going overboard on either.
Right now the liberals are crafting the world in their own image. It’s dangerous and incoherent. It needs to be rolled back.
I understand I will never get the society I want, exactly. But we have to move closer towards that goal. The nuttiest 10% of liberals will always be complaining and alienated. The nuttiest 10% of conservatives will always find something to disapprove. Admittedly, I’m in the nuttiest 10% on the right, but finding that broad commonality will serve everyone better.
Door to door political instability means the whole country, and indeed the whole world, loses.
emotionalists, altruists, collectivists, parasites, statists, socialists
vs
reason, rational self interest, individualism, independents, limited government, capitalists
This is what the Political Establishment does not grasp. You can con and lie and scheme to put Hillary in office, but it will not make the Sanders/Trump voters go away.
Clamping a lid on a pressure cooker rarely works out well.
The US Media/Political Establishment reminds me of the French Aristocracy in 1787.
Figure Sanders as the candidate for the "Liberal Left".
Cruz or Trump as the candidate for the "Conservative Right".
And Hillary/Rubio/Kasich/Jeb/etc all elbowing each other out of the way as a candidate for a "Moderate Party". You and I both know Hillary isn't moderate, but she's positioning herself that way.
Like I said, Something's gotta give, somewhere. I'm hoping that it's our political structure that breaks, since it's the least valuable. If our social structure gives out (think, race war) that would akin to our government breaking (think secession). Results from either of those would be horrific.
We need to be divided.
I feel for you. My relatives in New York are also big on virtue signaling. They told me Trump was just like Hitler.
This election year is breaking up friendships and turning families against each other.
Virtue signaling — or simple hypocrisy, if you will — has come to dominate all discourse.
After all I have heard, I think I’d rather be an honest reprobate.
“Regardless of who wins next month, half the people are not going to look on that person as their president.”
Already happened. Libs never accepted GWB as their legitimate president, and conservatives, as a rule, have looked upon Obama as being illegitimate from day one.
This country is so politically divided, it’s a wonder CWII hasn’t already broken out.
“TAKE IT TO THE SUBURBS!!!”
“If the differences were regional, we’d already be shooting. But they are not. Our enemies are just a few miles down the highway or the interstate, not up North or down South.”
Too true, but it’s even worse than that. The socio-political division exists in neighborhoods and even families, all throughout the nation.
Few of us live in places that are monolithically conservative, or liberal. We’re like a sea of red and blue confetti, thrown into the air and fallen to the floor.
It’s a nightmare scenario we live in.
One half of the white population faces legal discrimination in access to higher education, jobs, and promotions (while funding much of the government that imposes those sanctions on them).
Affirmative action is a national disgrace, and nothing less than an official policy that women, blacks, and Hispanics are genetically inferior to white & Asian men.
They would never let the productive half of this country stop feeding, housing, and schooling the unproductive half.
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