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1 posted on 08/28/2016 9:00:04 PM PDT by stolinsky
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McQueeg and Willard were never in it to win it, just to stop Conservative opposition to Zero. They were there to serve as ringers. Trump is in it to win it.


2 posted on 08/28/2016 9:05:24 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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Well to be fair, Romney is a classical Massachusetts liberal.


3 posted on 08/28/2016 9:08:02 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Why did everyone reject Ted Cruz? I know people are p*ssed at him because of his not endorsing Trump, but prior to that, there was little support here.

I thought the guy was 100% true conservative, and Christian. And he knew the Constitution, history and the issues inside out. He could have run circles around Hillary in the upcoming debates.


4 posted on 08/28/2016 9:12:08 PM PDT by Joann37
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All Trump has to do is follow his word to build the wall, ship the illegals out and send the refugees from Syria back home. Illegals are not going to self deport via the rule of law, as we have seen over and over again. To say that is to lie. They have to be removed.


7 posted on 08/28/2016 9:17:58 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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Not being a "pure" conservative is one thing.

McCain is pure scum!

9 posted on 08/28/2016 9:21:47 PM PDT by TigersEye (~Putin made me post this!~)
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Obama was elected because Blacks came out in record numbers to vote for him. I am not a big fan of McCain. I have voted third party in the past and am particularly proud of the fact that I never voted for George W. Bush.

However, even I voted for McCain over Obama.

I know it's just one data point, but I think a lot of conservatives either held their noses and voted for McCain, or deluded themselves and cast a vote for Palin, as if she was the top of the ticket.

Romney's loss was Romney's fault. George Allen might have been president but for his single 'Macaca' gaff from which he could never recover. Perry had his problem remembering which three departments he would eliminate. It was a death blow. Romney had his 47% remark which was a self-inflicted fatal knife wound.

No amount of cajoling, hectoring, threatening, shaming, damning or bribing of true conservatives was going to get us to vote for that turd. And he still would have lost even if we had voted for him.

My feeling is that Trump will win ESPECIALLY if everyone votes for the person that they most want to see in the Whitehouse. Trump, like Reagan, speaks to constituencies that no other Republican can speak to. It will be OK for Trump if "true conservatives" vote for third parties or write in "Ronald Reagan" or choose not to vote.

Trump will more than make up for that loss with more Black, Latino, Progressive, etc. votes.

He will also be helped by Jill Stein and Gary the fake Libertarian's candidacies.

So stop worrying. Stop harassing the true believers. Let them vote their consciences and we'll all welcome Trump when he swears on the Bible in January.

18 posted on 08/28/2016 9:43:31 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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At this point our country is so far left the moderates of the 90’s look like extremist. Seriously, I don’t think Bill Clinton (1992) could get the nominated or elected in 2016.

I’m voting for Trump but not because he’s a model of conservatism. It’s more for the fact that he has the nads to tell them to go love themselves , scares the crap out of both parties and has the media grasping for any piece of scandalous spaghetti that will stick to the wall.

Is Trump the right guy for the job? How the hell would I know. So far everyone of the people I voted for (in retrospect) proved marginal at best with a couple brownie points for effort but mostly a disappointing waste of opportunity.

I think Trump will prove to be pretty much a moderate. He’s Billionaire and probably wants to achieve the title of richest man on the planet. But, I think his real motives are centered around the heirs to his company and their ability to generate wealth. Unless he hates his children, he will seek to repeal or change regulations that choke the life out of companies. Perhaps the path he will cut for his family may be wider than we need but sufficient for ours.

If anyone thinks that a politician spent all their time, money, education, years of butkissing, etc just to wave the magic wand of government to make all of our wishes come true, they are delusional at best.... We are looking at candidates who only know their own needs and come with an agenda pre-installed to fulfill them. So the real choice is, which one of these selfish sphincter dwellers are heading the way we want to go. You don’t have to like the pilot or bus driver at a personal level. You only have to be confident that they will make it to your intended destination in one piece.

For Me, that is Trump 2016
Because Hillary and the democratic party, who appears to be everything for everyone, can’t find one thing to be for me.


23 posted on 08/28/2016 10:35:06 PM PDT by jmclemore (Go Trump)
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McCain wasn't a pure conservative, so we got Obama. Romney wasn't a pure conservative, so we got Obama again. Now we're hearing that Trump isn't a pure conservative. As a result, are we going to be stuck with Hillary for four years--and with her Supreme Court nominees for decades?

  1. Is McCain even a conservative at all?
  2. Is Romney? (Highly doubtful, considering that policy-wise he was essentially Obama with an (R) by his name.)
  3. What is conservative in this context? And what is being conserved?
In fact, if we look at the Republican Party as a whole, the question what is being conserved?/what are its goals? become something very different if you compare action to stated goals. If one were to name virtually anything that the party claims to be about, from government accountability to fiscal responsibility to Constitutionalism the Republican party fails by any measure on all counts.

Yes, there is no perfect candidate, but what experience has taught me is that loyalty is a one-way street so far as the party is concerned: if they offer up a candidate you just have to hold your nose and vote for him, but if you and I (the people) push a candidate then we're rebellious and have to be put in our place.

In short: it's not Republican vs. Democrat anymore, its the elite vs. Americans.

24 posted on 08/28/2016 10:36:17 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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The choice is definitely: Trump or Clinton.

Any conservative not supporting and voting for Trump is helping Hillary become president.


28 posted on 08/29/2016 12:00:17 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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What many people don't seemed to understand, that in this dire period of American history, where our founding freedoms and liberties are at stake, you are not going to find an existing politician to do the heavy lifting that will have to be done to turn this huge aircraft carrier of a country around. We need a leader from outside, not already mired in the uni-party that our nation's capitol has become.

This is a perfect time for a Donald Trump and Donald Trump is perfect to fit the bill for who we need to start to straighten out this mess in Washington.

An unassertive, timid Casper Milquetoast, is not who we need at time like this. We need a politically incorrect, confident, assertive leader who will swing for the outfield fences. And in the process, he may strike out a few times, as big-hitter tend to do, but he will also hit some magnificent home runs that will knock the liberal, Marxist, Left back on its haunches.

39 posted on 08/29/2016 7:10:25 AM PDT by HotHunt
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No comparison actually. There wasn’t mass institutional opposition to McCain and Romney, even though they are arguably liberal Republicans. I still don’t understand it.


45 posted on 08/29/2016 2:44:55 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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“Is Trump that kind of SOB? He very well might be. Is he a ‘pure conservative’? I don’t care.”

An “SOB”? I don’t know. But I have said that I want the biggest America-loving badass on God’s green earth in the White House to fix this country. It appears that Trump is that very badass.


55 posted on 08/30/2016 5:02:20 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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