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ATF Acting Director Brandon Campaigning for Gun Registry
Gun Watch ^ | 5 August, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/14/2016 5:45:03 AM PDT by marktwain

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What is the purpose of a gun registry? To allow the government to confiscate guns. That is it. It is being used for that purpose in California as we speak.

There will not be a massive gun confiscation. all at once, unless it occurs when most guns have already been confiscated and the public conditioned to accept it.

Gun confiscation is occurring incremetally, little by little, as more guns are made illegal and more people made into prohibited possessors.

That is what is going on in California.

1 posted on 08/14/2016 5:45:05 AM PDT by marktwain
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Marching to odumbo’s orders!


2 posted on 08/14/2016 5:47:53 AM PDT by DaveA37 (t)
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My advice: do not register anything. Have a boating accident or place an ad in a publication stating you have guns for sale. No need to know whom you sold to, just that you sold them in most states. Tell them to KMA when they ask.


3 posted on 08/14/2016 5:48:02 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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I am not, nor will I ever, REGISTER a gun with the federal government. Nor will I comply with any state efforts to do same. They will just have to come find them and take them away from me.

At the slightest hint of this as an actual possibility, they will be dispersed. Those that I have to keep because they are documented in some fashion will all be loaded to the gills with magazines and backups to boot.


4 posted on 08/14/2016 5:48:19 AM PDT by Gaffer
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#4473...


5 posted on 08/14/2016 5:54:06 AM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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Unintended Consequences
6 posted on 08/14/2016 5:54:12 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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Once the gun registry is created....unless it says you have to present the weapons at some central county office to be noted (something likely not to occur)....it’ll be a post office form that you are simply told to fill out and send to some federal bureau office in Red Bay, Alabama. It’ll probably have sixty people to put the info from the cards into some federal database.

So, once you figure this game out....what keeps you from submitting 300 cards with fake serials, and even counting your kids BB guns? At some point, when they realize the database is worthless because there’s at least 300,000 BB guns registered....the whole thing falls apart.

Added to this game...what if they wanted you to show up with the guns to register, and you show up with the guns but NO ID card? You just say you are Jose Jose and live at such-and-such address. If you can vote without an ID...registering a gun without an ID should go along the same lines.


7 posted on 08/14/2016 5:54:37 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Every FReeper already knows this has nothing to do with guns. It is all about turning the least violent, most law abiding segment of society into criminals. A la Aynn Rand. Just another step toward the destruction of America. Libtards are not Americans, they do not want to be Americans. Why do we continue to allow them to claim they are?

It has been obvious for decades two cultures cannot occupy the same space. We simply have to quit trying. We have allowed them to damage our country and culture for long enough. It has to stop.


8 posted on 08/14/2016 5:59:48 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Canada already wasted billions before admitting it was a waste of resources. Like all other aspects of Socialism our dimwit libtards think they can make it work.


9 posted on 08/14/2016 6:01:40 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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#4473...

Aren't those supposed be be destroyed after so many years. There's a law preventing them from keeping a history database.

10 posted on 08/14/2016 6:02:20 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (If Trump loses, America dies)
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That’s an enemy of the Constitution and the People right there. It is none of the government’s business what I own.


11 posted on 08/14/2016 6:03:55 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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I a COMPLETELY cognizant and aware of the impacts of a Form 4473. And, I am also telling you that you don’t have to complete a Form 4473, nor register, nor NICs check a PRIVATE sale in my state.

For the weapons I purchased with my CWCL, only a Form 4473 was completed. NO NICS checks whatsoever. Yes, Forms 4473 were completed and are stored by the seller until surrendered on going out of business. IT IS ILLEGAL PRESENTLY for the government to inspect, review and catalog these Forms 4473.

As for the person-to-person sales - that have absolutely no f@cking idea of the extent.


12 posted on 08/14/2016 6:04:48 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Kept forever AFAIK. When a store is closed the forms are sent in. Assuming they didn’t burn up in the fire....


13 posted on 08/14/2016 6:05:04 AM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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To: wastoute

That’s the first quote on my FR profile page.


14 posted on 08/14/2016 6:05:38 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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The older a 4473 is, the less useful it really is to them. The whole point of forcing a registry is to get *current* information.


15 posted on 08/14/2016 6:06:01 AM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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Aren't those supposed be be destroyed after so many years. There's a law preventing them from keeping a history database.

Your naivete is endearing...but dangerous.

16 posted on 08/14/2016 6:12:17 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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Registration always leads to confiscation.


17 posted on 08/14/2016 6:14:02 AM PDT by Republican1795.
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...IT IS ILLEGAL PRESENTLY for the government to inspect, review and catalog these Forms 4473.

It is illegal presently for felons to be in possession of a weapon and to use it to kill people. Felons don't care. Neither does government.
18 posted on 08/14/2016 6:20:37 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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I understand the reality of your statement. but the one thing reasonable people have to account for is that our law enforcement, our government agencies and their operatives cannot operate above or outside established law.

Given a preponderance of evidence they do or will do this, then that makes the case for them to be overthrown by force if need be.


19 posted on 08/14/2016 6:23:15 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Why is the person who oversaw F&F not in jail?


20 posted on 08/14/2016 6:24:11 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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