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To: Longbow1969

“I just voted 5 times in a row simply by clearing my cache/history. They are not blocking my IP after each vote.” I suppose only you know that secret and Bernie’s people don’t know it. When you have That large a gap it is like the large gaps in “Who won the debates?” They were accurate indicators of Trump’s ultimate success. Take away nothing from this poll at your own peril. If you think it hasn’t been an upsetting factor in Hillaryland I disagree. It also shows a sharp lack of enthusiasm wouldn’t you agree?


39 posted on 08/11/2016 12:55:31 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37
I suppose only you know that secret and Bernie’s people don’t know it. When you have That large a gap it is like the large gaps in “Who won the debates?” They were accurate indicators of Trump’s ultimate success. Take away nothing from this poll at your own peril. If you think it hasn’t been an upsetting factor in Hillaryland I disagree. It also shows a sharp lack of enthusiasm wouldn’t you agree?

You appear to be the owner of the Coach blog I see posted here quite often. As such, you should KNOW by now that on-line unscientific polls like this are meaningless. If they mattered, Ron Paul would be finishing up his second term as President.

You also said they block people via IP from multi voting, and without any effort at all I showed that to be utterly false.

Yes, if on-line polls are always skewing one way then that MIGHT give you some indication of intensity of support, but just like large rallies it does not give you an idea of depth of support - and depth of support is what matters in elections.

Seriously, you should know this. Perhaps you are just trying to lift people's spirits, but feeding them nonsense is not the answer. It reminds me of what Breitbart was doing leading up to the Ryan v Nehlen vote. If you read Breitbart you'd have thought Ryan was in the race of his life and in danger of being upset by Nehlen. Nothing could have been further from the truth. The race was never close. Breitbart was feeding its readers a pile of steaming BS and of course Nehlen lost by like 75%.

Trump is lagging in the polls at this time. That is just the fact. All this nonsense about him leading in social media, some dopey website claiming to "un-skew" polls again, etc, are all the same dung we heard in 2012. Trump has plenty of time to turn things around, but rather than lie to people about the state of the race we are better off discussing what can be done to help defeat Hillary. Even if Trump were ahead we should be acting as if he were 10 points down to keep our guard up.

I think the best way to look at it is this. Trump has been under unprecedented attack - even worse than Sarah Palin got. I have never seen the media go after someone as viciously as they have Trump over the last several weeks. Yet STILL Trump is within striking distance (probably only 7 or 8 points down) and it isn't even Labor Day. The real good news here is likely the "boy who cried wolf" effect. If Trump can survive this, it is very possible that the public might ignore the media attacks in the future.

41 posted on 08/11/2016 1:16:34 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: jmaroneps37
There is one thing that should be note worthy about this poll. During McCain and Romney vs Obama elections we used to lose these on line polls when they where at liberal sources.

you're right it doesn't mean much. We can't forget how many dead people will be voting this year.

42 posted on 08/11/2016 1:17:23 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: jmaroneps37

What you are missing is that the legion of die-hard voters for Mrs. Bill do not attend political rallies or participate in on-line polls.


46 posted on 08/11/2016 1:58:00 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Trump-Pence, Kelli Ward 2016)
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