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Orlando Carry (CCW)
Western Rifle Shooters Association ^ | July 22, 2016 | Matt Bracken

Posted on 07/22/2016 5:39:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee

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To: Travis McGee

Very good thread Travis ......

Good aspects of any holster, for carry include a WTF is that question when seen on a person.

I’ve taken to having a local tailor modify my carhartt carpenter pants with a in the waistband set of pockets for a surefire flashlight, a spare high capacity mag and a simple bone stock reliable pistol. Ruler pocket on left thigh carries another spare mag.

Comfortable, no print, easy for daily carry.

Still a big fan of the OSS string holster for carry as well.

https://youtu.be/BAnrzl1iPtg

Carry a lot , shoot very little, comfortable, practical, endurable, ...... shy of weekly range day training abuse of course.

My concealed carry Sig AR pistol with the infamous arm brace “no its not a stock” poor mans paperless SBR is carried in a woven plastic/fiberglass bulk rice bag with a rain coat wrapped around it to not print the contents. Use a piece of old 11mm static line with a millers knot at bottom corner and a quick release knot at the open end of the bag. My paperless SBR / pistol has a RMR trijicon sight, a boonie packer redi-mag that gives me two 30 round pmags, a sling and a surefire M720V rail light.

Carry a camera, water bottles, snacks etc inside as well . I can sling the AR pistol, conceal it under the baggy rain coat if needed. My poor boy DIY gun bag !

Just screams BS to see an old out of shape fart with a Tennis Racquet case....:o)

Stay Safe !


41 posted on 07/22/2016 8:04:29 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: SLB

“If you don’t mind off the body carry, I used an old day planner lined with foam rubber. “

Same here. My old CCW in business was a Day Planner. No one suspected a thing.


42 posted on 07/22/2016 8:26:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Travis McGee

Camera cases make some of the best CCW bags. I’ve used a few.


43 posted on 07/22/2016 8:28:25 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Travis McGee
Slightly off topic, but slightly amusing: I was at the DFW Airport with a tenor saxophone in a form fitting flight case. Couple of guys asked, 'Is that a gun?' No, something much more dangerous. A saxophone.

Same horn, same case, in DC near the White House. Park Police officer on a bike made me open the case to show I actually did have a saxophone.

44 posted on 07/22/2016 8:41:20 AM PDT by real saxophonist ( YouTube + Twitter + Facebook = YouTwitFace.com)
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To: Travis McGee
I've carried "heavy" in central Florida since 1994. It's not hard with a fanny pack to wear comfy shorts, tight, tucked in shirts and sit comfortably in restaurants and church and still having instant access to a full sized pistol with extra mags, even while obeying seat belt laws in traffic.
45 posted on 07/22/2016 8:41:21 AM PDT by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: Repeal The 17th; Travis McGee
Why the disdain for my old man style fanny pack? Nobody gives it or me a second look.

They work pretty well IF you actually are an old man. Alternatively, I sometimes wear a bright red one with a *FIRST AID* patch sewn on.

There are literally of hundreds of designs available, but this is one of the ones I like: [and yes, I really do carry emergency first aid gear with me, as well as other potential emergency life-saving equipment]


46 posted on 07/22/2016 9:13:56 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: DCBryan1
Golf bags make EXCELLENT CCW.....esp. belt-fed M1919s ;)

Well, no. Buck's belt-fed M1919A4 Browning is controllable enough when running blanks for a movie, but for the real thing, consider the *Stinger* modified Browning .30 MG used by USMC Corporal Tony Stein:

...Their modification consisted of the addition of an M1 Garand buttstock, a BAR bipod, a BAR rear sight and a fabricated trigger. ... .

The President of the United States takes pride in presenting the MEDAL OF HONOR posthumously to


CORPORAL TONY STEIN

UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS RESERVE
for service as set forth in the following CITATION:


For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while serving with Company A, 1st Battalion, 28th Marines, 5th Marine Division, in action against enemy Japanese forces on Iwo Jima, in the Volcano Islands, 19 February 1945. The first man of his unit to be on station after hitting the beach in the initial assault, Cpl. Stein, armed with a personally improvised aircraft-type weapon, provided rapid covering fire as the remainder of his platoon attempted to move into position. When his comrades were stalled by a concentrated machinegun and mortar barrage, he gallantly stood upright and exposed himself to the enemy's view, thereby drawing the hostile fire to his own person and enabling him to observe the location of the furiously blazing hostile guns. Determined to neutralize the strategically placed weapons, he boldly charged the enemy pillboxes 1 by 1 and succeeded in killing 20 of the enemy during the furious single-handed assault. Cool and courageous under the merciless hail of exploding shells and bullets which fell on all sides, he continued to deliver the fire of his skillfully improvised weapon at a tremendous rate of speed which rapidly exhausted his ammunition. Undaunted, he removed his helmet and shoes to expedite his movements and ran back to the beach for additional ammunition, making a total of 8 trips under intense fire and carrying or assisting a wounded man back each time. Despite the unrelenting savagery and confusion of battle, he rendered prompt assistance to his platoon whenever the unit was in position, directing the fire of a half-track against a stubborn pillbox until he had effected the ultimate destruction of the Japanese fortification. Later in the day, although his weapon was twice shot from his hands, he personally covered the withdrawal of his platoon to the company position. Stouthearted and indomitable, Cpl. Stein, by his aggressive initiative sound judgment, and unwavering devotion to duty in the face of terrific odds, contributed materially to the fulfillment of his mission, and his outstanding valor throughout the bitter hours of conflict sustains and enhances the highest traditions of the U.S. Naval Service.

/S/ HARRY S. TRUMAN


47 posted on 07/22/2016 9:33:37 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: archy

I think his Stinger was an ANM2, not an M1919. Either way....drool.....


48 posted on 07/22/2016 9:46:37 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: Travis McGee

When I lived in Georgia and was both younger and slimmer, I carried most of the time. I used a Nintendo Game Boy carrier for a little while then I realized that no one would expect me to be carrying a game boy.

I ended up using a Domke photographers vest during warmer months. It has maybe a dozen pockets. A couple of problems with it was that the pockets are sealed by velcro which makes it a bit slow to get to.

Also with any of the outer pockets it was necessary to use some cloth wrapped around the gun to prevent it printing. That also slowed things down a bit.

Still the Domke vest was comfortable and cool with a lot of mesh. It also spread weight evenly.


49 posted on 07/22/2016 9:54:29 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Travis McGee; marktwain
State and local laws concerning the open and/or concealed carrying of firearms vary, but even where open carry is legal, many people prefer to carry concealed for their own reasons, and I will not attempt to change their minds.

In Wyoming, we can use either method, and no permit or other governmental permission is required. I personally like the old military issue GI M3 shoulder holster for the M1911A1 .45 autopistol, [which I've used for more than 50 years now!] but I'm under no illusions about it being a concealment rig, though it is nice to be able to toss a light jacket over the carried handgun in the event of a little drizzle or early spit of snow. But that does not preclude the carry of a second, better-concealed handgun. Usually a handgun.


50 posted on 07/22/2016 9:57:19 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Travis McGee

“....government law enforcement agency employees might decide to take a powder, set up a security perimeter, and then burn three irreplaceable hours while debating how best to attempt a rescue operation.”

“Fort Hood, San Bernardino, Orlando and Nice have taught us that when we are faced with an armed homicidal terrorist, we will have nobody but ourselves to depend on for our self defense during the first minutes...”

When the diplomatic compound in Benghazi that Ambassador Chris Stevens and others came under attack, just one mile away were two vehicles full of dedicated, fully armed operators, anxious to head to the fight, but had to just sit there waiting, while ‘important’ officials discussed the situation. The operators waited 20-30 minutes before deciding they couldn’t wait any longer, took matters into their own hands, and without ‘permission’, sped off to the fight at the compound.

Had the operators left when they wanted to, there’s an excellent chance that Chris Stevens and Sean Smith would still be alive, the initial plans of the attackers having been thwarted, a second attack on the CIA annex may not have even happened. It’s just one more high profile example of critical time being wasted while deranged gunmen have their way unimpeded.


51 posted on 07/22/2016 10:20:05 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: DCBryan1
I think his Stinger was an ANM2, not an M1919. Either way....drool.....

Just so, taken from the rear gunner's position of U/S USMC/USN Dauntless dive bomber aircraft. But they're still Browning .30s, though with about double the rate of fire of the M1919A4 due to the muzzle bearing booster and lighter barrel. Use the barrel from a paratroopers/Army Infantry M1919A6 and you'll about split the difference.

Likewise, the M1919A5 and M37 .30 Brownings we had in our tanks were most certainly still *Browning .30s.*

Eventually, Marines took ANM2s from wrecked aircraft and converted them into Stingers by adding butt stocks and sights from M1 Garand rifles and bipods from BARs. Combat testing gave positive results.

Before the invasion of Iwo Jima, a sergeant worked tirelessly to build Stingers but could produce only six. Five went to 3rd Battalion, 28th Marines, and one to Cpl. Tony Stein with 1st Battalion.

Combat Team 28’s after-action report for the battle on Iwo noted that 3rd Battalion “used a number of specially built ‘Stinger’ light machine guns” and “found their performance excellent under all conditions.”

The report stated that the Stinger was “an aircraft [Browning Light Machine Gun].”

It added that the weapon, with 100 rounds, weighed 25 pounds and that the Marines using it had “little difficulty” with jams.

This may be a little off topic for *Orlando Carry* of handguns, but there's a subset about the weapons for further use in your vehicle, probably most usually a carbine, rifle or shotgun. For those with the strength and inclination, however, a *Stinger* might just fill that role. And wouldn't some unlucky jihadi wannabe be surprised!


52 posted on 07/22/2016 10:24:40 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Carthego delenda est
Universal Shoulder Bag Pouch Sleeve Case Skin with Neck Strap for IPhone Mobile

US $2.99 from E-Bay

Looks like a Glock 19 or 30 would fit, probably a Tokarev or 12-shot Cz52 9mm Makarov, and probably many 2",3" or 4" barreled revolvers, the cop gun of old. [Remember, we're talking full-power fighting handguns here...there may be multiple bad guys/gals or body armor involved, as well as jihad-induced fervor or drug use.

http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mcnIkv7315PY4uujWVLpixg.jpg


53 posted on 07/22/2016 10:38:32 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Travis McGee
These were always one of the handier carry bags for the old Ingram guns, available in both full and semi versions. You put your stuff into the retaining straps inside it, and in the event of trouble, hung the case by its strap around your neck and pulled the zipper. The magazines stayed in place still in their keepers, and the gun folded down to where you pulled it out and charged it or took it off *Safe.* If you had one and time permitted, you could screw on the suppressor, especially if it was nighttime, or leave it in the bag as a bottom weight to prevent the dangling bag from bouncing or flopping around. I added a short section of parachute cord as a tiedown for the same reason.

The back of the case included a section into which a 14-layer Kevlar pad could be fitted; nowadays a ceramic hard plate might be an even better idea, offering up to level IV protection from up to armor piercing rounds. And it looks enough like a soft camper cooler or six-pack carrier to be mistaken for one, especially with the addition of some soft drink or beer company promo labels stuck on and an old-time can/bottle opener hanging from the strap.


54 posted on 07/22/2016 11:13:51 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: archy

Now you’re moving away from “Orlando carry” into “Key West carry” style, which opens up a whole new dimension of ‘accessories’ for a “man without conviction” to carry with, lol.


55 posted on 07/22/2016 11:15:18 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Travis McGee
This lesson also carries over to the recent Bastille Day truck massacre in Nice, France. It took good men with guns to finally stop the bloodthirsty Tunisian’s motorized rampage. But the truck and its driver did not cause all of the carnage in one go—according to various news reports there were fits and starts when the truck slowed and even stopped, and when this happened, brave but unarmed men tried to climb onto the cab to end the carnage with their bare hands. Unfortunately, the only good guys with guns in their possession belonged to government law enforcement agencies or GLEAs, and they were not in position to shoot the driver until 84 innocents were killed and many more were severely injured.

Hmmmm. A means for concealed carry for a weapon able to stop a large truck, or even more bullet-resistant vehicle, such as a bank armored car or bulldozer. And, of course, a way to carry it in public without spooking the horses....


56 posted on 07/22/2016 11:26:33 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Carthego delenda est
Now you’re moving away from “Orlando carry” into “Key West carry” style, which opens up a whole new dimension of ‘accessories’ for a “man without conviction” to carry with, lol.

Might also be thought of as *Sarajevo* carry. Places they told you not to carry a pistol, I generally took a frag grenade or two.

I think it's more the principal than the tool, though.

Roy Orbison, from the movie The Fastest Guitar Alive


57 posted on 07/22/2016 11:36:07 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: archy; Travis McGee

There isn’t a man on earth that can steer a loaded truck with a flat front tire. You can barely guide it in the direction it is going but as far as making sharp turns, forget it. I’ve never had a front wheel flat with an unloaded truck so I cannot tell you what’s possible with them.


58 posted on 07/22/2016 1:33:10 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.")
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To: Travis McGee
UP!!! read it this morning
59 posted on 07/22/2016 2:52:17 PM PDT by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING!)
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To: B4Ranch

That is what a truck driver told me on another thread. If you cannot go for the driver, go for a front tire.

Matt hits another out of the park!


60 posted on 07/22/2016 3:21:23 PM PDT by marktwain
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