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To: Bobalu

There’s no question that the left and the right also cannot coexist peacefully together and I would gladly favor a split between the two, but even after a split there is no guarantee that they would remain conservative and liberal.

Those traits don’t appear to be hereditary. So conservative parents may end up with kids that are liberals and vice versa, and sooner or later you’ll be back to where you were. Still I’m all for trying it.

The black vs white (or asian) problem is of a different kind. Following is what I believe is the cause of the problems we see today. (Your comments, objections, etc are welcome)

When you have two groups of people...

1. with significantly different AVERAGE IQ’s (more than one standard deviation), and with
2. members of the groups that are easily identified as belonging to one group or the other

... those two groups will not be able to coexist peacefully together in the same country.

The reasons for this is as follows.

- If you have one group that has a significantly lower IQ, what kind of jobs do you think they will end up having (assuming there is absolutely no discrimination)?

- In a similar vein, how do you think the kids of the lower IQ group will do in school?

- I imagine you would answer that lower IQ group will be disproportionately represented in the menial jobs, and the lower IQ students will be over-represented in the group that flunks out. There will also be some that will have high level, good paying jobs, but much fewer, as well as students who get As, but again much fewer.

- Given human nature, what do you think the consequences of such reality is going to be in the society. How will the various groups react?

- Well, it is a human trait to identify with groups, and what you look like is definitely one of the things we strongly identify with. Racial features are foremost in that identification. So the people who identify through their looks with the low IQ group are going to feel very resentful of the fact that so many of their “brothers” occupy the low rung of the ladder, and they will want to know why. And if you tell them that it’s because on the average that group has lower IQ, that will only get them more incensed, especially if they have been told that all races are on the average equal.

- There will also be plenty in the higher IQ group who, through guilt or ignorance or “fairness” will side with the grievances of the other group. Thus a coalition is formed against the remaining majority of the Higher IQ group to address those grievances.

- The choice that this majority has is to either comply, by giving in to their demands, or to resist those demands. Resisting the demands will result in protests, riots and violence. To possibly avoid that, the majority caves, and so it institutes anti-discrimination laws, preferential treatments, diversity, multiculturalism and on and on.

- This only exacerbates the problem, because the people getting preferential treatment will actually now perform even worse than before, because they know they can get away with it. On noticing this the majority gets even more incensed and prejudiced, escalating the problem even more, sooner or later ending up with more demands on the part of the lower IQ group and its allies.

- And again the majority is at the proverbial fork in the road of having to decide to say enough is enough (which probably means war or some type of separation) or to appease one more time.

And that’s why I say that two easily identifiable groups with significantly different AVERAGE IQ, CANNOT (as in logical certitude) coexist peacefully together. It is truly a tragic reality, but a reality nonetheless. And yes you may have black friends that are the exception to the rule, but it is not the individual case that matters here. It is the group dynamics based on averages.

The above statement can also be applied to cultural differences, demonstrating why multiculturalism is such an utter failure. Here’s that general statement.

Two groups of people with diametrically opposed world views cannot coexist peacefully together. That goes for islam and the west, communism and the west, naziism and the west, fascism and the west, etc. The basic values that clash in these cases is that we believe in freedom with responsibility, the other groups don’t.

The conclusion from the above discussion is...

If you want a peaceful harmonious society, it’s best if the population is homogeneous (or if not homogeneous, each identifiable group has roughly similar AVERAGE IQs) and that there is a single dominant culture (i.e. set of values).

The scandinavian countries were perfect example of that, but they found their society too peaceful, too boring. So they wanted to add a little spice and started importing people who don’t look like them nor believe what they believe. I understand that life there is no longer boring, but I wonder if they find their women getting raped, other crimes skyrocketing, supporting millions of idle fanatics, their free speech muzzled... I wonder if they are starting to find that a bit too exciting.


72 posted on 07/20/2016 11:13:02 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: aquila48

What you have said is certainly true. I’d hate to hear what a progressive would call you to your face :-)

The average IQ of any group means little on a personal basis.
Look at Herman Cain, an eloquent mathematician!

Asians on the average have a slightly higher IQ than the group I’m in... but my IQ is far above the Asian average... the average again means nothing on a personal level. [I’m English/Ashkenazi Jewish]

The troubles we have are indeed caused by the problems you stated... but I fear we will never find a solution.

I do believe in ‘White Man’s Burden’ we should endeavor to do what we can, within reason, for those not as blessed as we are.

I can tell you have an excellent IQ just from the fine reasoning in your post. FR is a place where high-functioning folk come together.


73 posted on 07/20/2016 11:25:17 PM PDT by Bobalu (Democrats use guns to shoot the innocent. Republicans use them for self-defense.)
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