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To: alternatives?

You live in cave? You’re on, and or connected to the government payroll too in one form or another?

1. Ban abolish all government unions at all levels.

2. Reduce the size of government by millions of bureaucrats all all levels.

3. For those who remain, slash and reduce the retirement pensions and benefit government employees at all levels.

4. Eliminate all unnecessary government programs at all levels.

5. Sell and or lease thousands of government properties/facilities to those who actually produce and contribute.

6. Transfer tens of millions of acres to private interest, as long as it’s stipulated this only applies to legitimate Americans.

There are hundreds more ways to save many billions annually. All these things need to be done, regardless, even in a good economy with zero debt. The solutions have been voiced millions of times. And what happened in the past several decades? Government at all levels only became, larger, more costly, more controlling, and all encompassing.

This would only be the start of taking our country back from this loser leadership and their disciples of decline and debt.


13 posted on 06/28/2016 11:55:24 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deciet)
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To: dragnet2; alternatives?
let's limit that to increasing the death rate of gov't retirees vs *all* retirees...heheh that's pretty dark...

I'd like to see the taxpayers at the head of the line if we start selling away federally held assets. Those pseudo-bonds held by Social Security should probably be converted to surplus federal assets, e.g. land and mineral rights and buildings and nuclear weapons and space probes and such.

As far as the unfunded pension liabilities go, if there was some collusion or conflict of interest in the founding of the liability (and we should be pretty strict that even the unexplained appearance of such is sufficient to damn them) the obligation should be discharged. This means that obligations created generations ago with questionable appearances would be difficult to explain, so they would have to vaporize. We could create special retirement facilities for "golden-age bureaucrats" in remote areas (on indian reservations?) who don't have an alternative place to go

Wow, That's pretty ugly, but then I've paid over a $1 million in taxes in my lifetime, so I have a feeling it's not going to come out nice no matter how I put it...

15 posted on 06/28/2016 1:16:45 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote...)
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To: dragnet2

1) Doesn’t do anything about existing obligations. It will take a long time to help.
2)It would be nice (but I don’t see it happening).
3) I think the courts would rule this unconstitutional. I believe they have in Illinois
4) This is basically the same as 2)
5) Could actually help. You sell the property and then local governments would collect property taxes.
6) Better to sell. Giving the government is sealing off more and more property in the west it would require a change in direction


16 posted on 06/28/2016 2:02:48 PM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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