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To: iontheball

My understanding is that the Cruz family did not apply for a CRBA until 1986, when Ted would have been 15 or 16.

While this does not DIRECTLY implicate his NBC status or lack thereof, it does speak to INTENT - the intent of his parents at the time of his birth.

I know that if one of my children was born in a foreign country, I would have been at the consulate or embassy the VERY NEXT DAY to safeguard the evidence of that most precious birthright of any real American.


6 posted on 05/03/2016 5:23:43 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Cruz never could have outfought Trump. I never knew, until this day, that it was Romney all along.)
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To: Jim Noble

True. . IF you ALWAYS intended to go back to America and live there. I think that the Cruz clan was simply trying to make there way somewhere, ANYWHERE, and that they did not have an overarching patriotic fervor AT THE TIME. Now maybe, but then no.


11 posted on 05/03/2016 5:28:29 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Jim Noble

The intent is clear. His parents who were expecting a baby left the country and returned to their home country so their son would be a natural born citizen of Canada. It is obvious their allegiance was to Canada not The United States. Not Ted’s fault but not really debatable either.


14 posted on 05/03/2016 5:30:29 AM PDT by cdpap
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To: Jim Noble

Until I worked a job where I needed to see someone’s birth certificate, I never knew there was such a thing as a Consular Report of Birth Abroad. I would guess that many people don’t realize this exists, so perhaps that is the reason that Mrs. Cruz did not apply for one at the time of Ted’s birth.


25 posted on 05/03/2016 5:43:13 AM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: Jim Noble

Or it indicates a lack of awareness of the complexities of US code. Specifically, Title 8 section 1401.


61 posted on 05/03/2016 6:55:35 AM PDT by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: Jim Noble

My son was born in a foreign country and I started the process while still in the hospital. You are exactly right. It’s a vulnerable feeling.


99 posted on 05/03/2016 9:12:32 AM PDT by riri (Obama's Amerika--Not a fun place.)
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To: Jim Noble
My son was born in a U.S. Army hospital in Europe. I was not at the Consulate the very next day but I did take him to a Photography store before his 8th day of life. I held his head as the Passport photo was taken. I then drove a hundred miles or so to the Consulate with all the required paperwork and secured for him his Birth Certificate and completed his Passport application.

I did not actually have a Passport and so I had to use my Wife's in order to prove his citizenship. Active Duty Soldiers mostly do not have Passports.

My son spent just under 7 weeks of his life in Europe. All military people are aware of the requirements. Cruz's family clearly did not consider it important at the time for their son to hold USA citizenship.

I consider them to be foreigners at heart and most certainly Cruz is not a NBC, and therefore ineligible to ever be President.

127 posted on 05/03/2016 2:12:53 PM PDT by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents.)
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