Trump Kid Likens GOP Election Process to 'Communist China'

WeeklyStandard.com ^ | APR 20, 2016 | JIM SWIFT

[Solson]

Reagan was equally “unpopular” at this point in the race against Carter. Reagan won. So will Trump. Nationally, Trump is polling within the MOE against Hillary.

[DoughtyOne]

You DO realize that we vote for representatives all the time.

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow.  Really?  Garsh, you're knowedge base is super impressive.  Thank you Mr. Wizzard.

In fact that is how we elect our umm, REPRESENTATIVES to Congress.

No, it is not how we elect our representatives to Congress.  You don't even know that we vote directly for our Representatives.

You thought we picked delegates who then select our Representatives?  Really?

BTW: I already know water comes out of the faucet when you turn the knob, but thanks in advance for that bit of informaiton sure to follow these lead in superlatives.

You attempt to use the logical fallacy of a straw man to try and assert that I and other hate it when the public votes.

Listen Twiddle Dum, the primaries are a long accepted form of the public chosing who our nominee will be.  They vote on the up and up.  There are no back room deals.  The party can't control it, and pinheads like you are not able to manipulate the process.

You can’t be more wrong.

B. S.  You love it when the caucuses are held, the RNC keeps a firm grip on the process, and they maniuplate who gets the nod.  Your days of pulling this nonsense are over bub.

I love it when the public votes.

No you don't.  You love it when the caucuses are manipulated.

As precinct captain I worked hard to get people to the caucus TO ELECT THEIR PRECINCT DELEGATE (representative).

Just as I said.  You're a know-nothing nimrod.

To you it seesm perfectly fine to have the caucus back room deals wind up with Ted Cruz getting all the delegates, while the Republican base votes in an entirely different direction.

You are a GOPe Dupe either by choice or ignorance.

Tell us oh mighty Kong, what makes a delegate more intelligent than a voter.  This isn't a situation that calls for an intermediary.  Again, what the hell is wrong with you?

When the nation and Constitution was first established, the citizens voted for their state representatives and in turn, those representatives elected our national Senators.

I'm not certain that wasn't better, but it is not our senator or nominee for senator we're talking about here.  Straw man much?

Hmmm, and how long has that been replaced?  100 years?  150 years?

Perhaps we should all be riding around in a horse and buggy, taking the stage coach across the nation, and waiting two weeks for a letter from the coast.

Those systems were put in place in a day when not everyone had a good education.  It was thought that more learned people should make the decisions.

Today everyone has access to an education, and everyone has a right to decide for themselves, not have an intermediary decide for them.

And when it comes to the presidency, everything should be above board, not done in back room deals..

What the hell is wrong with me?

Where to begin?  Good grief you're a total moron.

You're not my better.  None of your delegates are my better.  We have a society where everyone has access to information and can make informed decisions.  What century do you think your in?  The 500th, with the founders of Islam?

Better question, what the hell is wrong with you?

Yes, imagine a person like me wanting the public to vote their will and not your's or the GOPe's will.  Screw you and the donkey you rode in on.

Why do you want to allow the populace, democrat. welfare values to run this nation?

Listen braintrust, the Republicans have had the Senate and the House now for two years.  What did they do to stop any of that?  ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

And yet these are the very people you defend, because they are representatives acting on our behalf.

Now, with this on the record, you want to argue that representatives are best to decide who delegates go for, Cruz or Trump.  Reince?  Is that you?

Because that is what you are going to get if you take out the representatives.

Your ignorance is doubled down on with each new sentence.  I have not advocated we do away with Representatives or Senators.  You changed to topic to that to muddy the waters.

Does this logic really fly with the people you talk to in person?  I've seldom discussed these matters with someone this stupid, and you're bragging to me you're a precinct captain?

Gosh, what could go wrong there?

It is nice to get this sterling example of what problems we face getting this system fixed.

Getting idiots like you out of this process will be great for starters.

Our nation is a Republic - NOT a democracy.

Listen puddin, I don't need you to explain the finer workings of our nation, especially with what you've already revealed to me.

Perhaps you should learn not only the difference but why it matters.

You are a delusional peckerhead.

Let me ask you this. Do you support or oppose the electoral college and why?

Let me explain something to you.  If you're ignorant enough to think comparing the elctoral college to the Colorado Caucus is apples to apples, you're too ignorant to be discussing these issues.

We have an Executive branch, a Legistlative branch, and a Judicial branch of govenrment.  If we voted directly for the members of all three, it would not make us a democracy.

We would still be a Republic.

We would still have a representative form of government.

The caucuses are as corrupt as they can be.

They should reflect the will of the people.  I don't think they would ever reflect it exactly, but there should be some resemblence of the public will at large.

Trump is ahead in every national poll by large margins.  He is winning almost every state with direct elections, and yet the caucuses are going to Ted Cruz almost every time.

C O R R U P T I O N - E X I S T S

Deal with it..

[Heartlander]

I disagree...

[DoughtyOne]

The same type of lopsidedness existed in Reagan’s day.

What happened?

[DoughtyOne]

I think you have this confused.

It is you folks who are crossing your eyes rather than read or listen to Trump.

That’s not our problem.

[Heartlander]

Trump is no Reagan – I don’t believe it will end well…

[DoughtyOne]

Trump 522,938 60% 89
Kasich 216,898 25% 3
Cruz 125,202 14% 0

If Trump is in trouble with 522,938, what would Ted be with 125,202?

Folks, give it a freakin rest.

It’s over!

[McGruff]

“Jim Swift is deputy online editor of The Weekly Standard. He previously worked for members of the House and Senate as a tax staffer. Swift holds a BSBA from Saint Louis University.”

Whoopy.

[Heartlander]

The point is no Republican will win New York... Bernie got 756,500 votes.

[DoughtyOne]

‘:^)

[Bob434]

[[”Yeah. Well, it’s amazing,” said Trump Jr. “When you let the voters vote, we do incredibly well, you know?]]

Yeah- ‘incredibly well’ like in missouri where he was nearly tied with Ted yet walked away with over 70% of the delegates- woopsie- he forgot to bring that up in his wine fest- it’s apparently ‘not liek china’ when Donald gets delegates in ‘winner take most states’ regardless of how close he was to the other candidate- but by golly it’s ‘like china’ when donald is close and Ted gets more delegates’ because of the rules-

[CodeToad]

[taxcontrol]

You don't even know that we vote directly for our Representatives.

Sorry, you missed again on that one. You see here in Colorado we do vote DIRECTLY for our representatives. Both our representatives to Congress AND OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO THE STATE CONVENTION.

You thought we picked delegates who then select our Representatives? Really?

I am sorry you are so confused but I can see why. Like I said above, we here in Colorado elect delegates to represent our precincts in the State Convention. This is nearly identical to how we elect representatives to Congress.

the primaries are a long accepted form of the public chosing who our nominee will be

Yes, primaries are ONE means of choosing. In fact, Colorado tried the primary system from 1988 till 2002. You know what, we didn't like it. So we decided to go back to the system that had been in place since 1912 ... yes another long accepted for of public choosing, call caucuses where we locally elect someone to represent our precinct at the state convention.

No you don't. You love it when the caucuses are manipulated.

Again, you are not getting it. THERE IS NO MANIPULATION of Colorado precinct caucuses. ANY REGISTERED REPUBLICAN can run for and be elected to: precinct captain, delegate or alternate. This is local mom and pop republicans deciding which of their neighbors are going to represent them at the state.

You're a know-nothing nimrod.

Ahh yes, the ad hominum attack. Last refuge of the person who has lost the argument and does not have anything else to attack with. Since you have forfeited the argument by resorting to name calling, there is really no further need for discussion.

Good day to you sir.

[jmaroneps37]

Hey Larry why haven’t you and TexasCajun commented?

[Bob434]

[[Ahh yes, the ad hominum attack. ]]

When all else fails, that’s all that’s left

[DoughtyOne]

You don't even know that we vote directly for our Representatives.

Sorry, you missed again on that one. You see here in Colorado we do vote DIRECTLY for our representatives. Both our representatives to Congress AND OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO THE STATE CONVENTION.

You DO realize that we vote for representatives all the time. In fact that is how we elect our umm, REPRESENTATIVES to Congress.

Yes, I did miss the correct interpretation of what you were telling me.  You will have to understand I was talking to a person who was advocating delegates (representatives) to represent him, so it seemed you were saying you folks elect representatives who then select your representatives.  I didn't agree with that.  Chalk it up to me being obtuse if you want.  You are the delegate/representative guy.  I'm not, at the state level for picking our presidents, senators, or representatives.

I saw the mention of the ad hominem attack.  Fine.

Rather than address the rest of your post, lets review the process.

Dad:  Susie, aren't you excited.  We're going down to get you registered today.  You'll be able to vote for the first time.

Sue:  Sure Dad, I can't wait to vote for Donald Trump!

Dad:  Well, slow down a bit there honey.  It doesn't exactly work that way.  You can't vote for Trump.  You will get to reveiw a list of delegates you can vote for.  Then you'll vote for one of them.

Sue:  But dad, I don't know any delegates.

Dad:  That's okay!  Everyone is excited to vote for delegates.  You'll like it.

Sue:  But I want to vote for Trump, not some person I don't even know, and never will know.  Besides, why should I have a delegate when I can just go to the polls and vote?

Dad:  Well, you don't get your own delegate.  Your delegate will be hundreds, perhaps thousands of other people's delegate too.  It doesn't matter though.  He'll vote for who you want him to.

Sue:  There's no way he'll vote for someone else?  Are you sure?  How do I know?

Dad:  Weeeelllllll, if it comes to a second or third vote at the convention, then yes, your delegate may vote for someone else.  That hardly every happens.  Don't worry.

Sue:  So I can't vote for my candidate, and if I do vote for a delegte, they might actually vote for someone else?

Dad:  Well yes, but don't worry about it.  It's not important.

Sue:  So you're telling me I can't vote for who I want.  I have to vote for someone I don't know and never will.  This stranger will represent my desires, but he may vote for someone other than I want.  And on top of this, you're saying it doesn't matter if he votes for someone else?

Dad:  Sure honey, if you want to look at it that way.  Still, it's so much better than the chaos directly voting for a candidate would cause.

Sue:  If I vote, doesn't that vote get counted for my candidate, and then it cannot be changed?

Dad:  Yes, but that is so dangerous.

Sue:  My desire to vote for a candidate directly is dangerous?  Good grief...

Dad:  Sue, I can give you that ride now.  Let's get you registered.

Sue:  No thanks.

[DoughtyOne]

...continues...

Dad: So anyway Bill, that’s how it went. Heh heh heh...

Bill: Yes, but it’s your own daughter. You’re happy about this?

Dad: Well she was going to vote for Trump...

Bill: But isn’t that her right?

Dad: It works at the precinct level, why not at home.

Bill: Yes, why not indeed... (disgusted look)

[taxcontrol]

Well it is really hard to argue against pure fantasy

[DoughtyOne]

So that’s not how it works huh?

LMAO, that’s exactly how it works.

You just don’t like it out there in public.

WTF do you folks use for brains in Colorado GOP?

[taxcontrol]

No that is not how it works at all.