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New Socialist Magazine Jacobin: 'Burn the Constitution'
Cybercast News Service ^ | March 23, 2016 | 2:56 PM EDT | Mark Judge

Posted on 03/23/2016 3:46:38 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Jacobin, a new socialist magazine, has published an essay advocating destroying the U.S. Constitution.

The magazine, which was launched in 2011 and is published four times a year, is the creation of Bhaskar Sunkara. Sunkara, 26, is the son of immigrants from Trinidad and Tobago. He lives in Brooklyn. …

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: bhaskarsunakra; burntheconstitution; jacobin; liberalagenda
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1 posted on 03/23/2016 3:46:38 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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2 posted on 03/23/2016 3:48:45 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Rubio: All the slipperiness of Bill Clinton, with none of the smarts.)
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To: Olog-hai

Not surprising that they named the magazine after a group within the leftists that participated in the bloody French Revolution.


3 posted on 03/23/2016 3:49:06 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Olog-hai

The full of sh$t is strong in this one.


4 posted on 03/23/2016 3:49:50 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("You'd see a different game if nobody wore a helmet". NY Rangers' Barry Beck 1983)
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5 posted on 03/23/2016 3:50:06 PM PDT by Slyfox (Donald Trump's First Principle is the Art of the Deal)
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To: MtnClimber

Liberal Socialist communists have been clamoring for a People’s Republic of North America for decades. This is nothing new.


6 posted on 03/23/2016 3:52:20 PM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prosecution 2016)
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[ Jacobin, a new socialist magazine, has published an essay advocating destroying the U.S. Constitution.

The magazine, which was launched in 2011 and is published four times a year, is the creation of Bhaskar Sunkara. Sunkara, 26, is the son of immigrants from Trinidad and Tobago. He lives in Brooklyn. … ]

I propose a new amendment, anyone who proposes the outright destruction of the US Constitution is no longer protected by it....

Arrest him with no warrant, seize all his assets and deport him without a trial after revoking his citizenship.


7 posted on 03/23/2016 3:55:56 PM PDT by GraceG (The election doesn't pick the next president, it is an audition for "American Emperor"...)
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To: Olog-hai

Burn Jacobin.


8 posted on 03/23/2016 3:56:14 PM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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Communist cowards, who do not permit any comments.

They are just waiting until they have the guns, and we are facing the wall.

Bad news for the neo-commies: getting the guns away from wary bitter clingers is very tricky.


9 posted on 03/23/2016 3:56:16 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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10 posted on 03/23/2016 3:56:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: GraceG

Yes, give him a one way ticket to his choice of either North Korea or Venezuela.


11 posted on 03/23/2016 3:57:28 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("You'd see a different game if nobody wore a helmet". NY Rangers' Barry Beck 1983)
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To: GraceG
Not very obscure in their meaning, picking Jacobin.


12 posted on 03/23/2016 3:58:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: GraceG

Sounds like a great law. It should apply to leaders who,dont uphold their sworn oaths as well.


13 posted on 03/23/2016 4:00:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Olog-hai

Life will be miserable for most. An modern day aristocratic dream for others.


14 posted on 03/23/2016 4:01:32 PM PDT by Fhios (Going Donald Trump is as close to going John Galt as we'll get.)
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Bhaskar Sunkara is apparently entirely ignorant of the reason we even have a Constitution. With no Constitution there is no federal government, whatever his "democratic will of the people" would indicate. No plan, no central control, no lever for his Party to grasp to control the citizens. Each state will still have a government under its own Constitution, naturally, and those are not subject to the "democratic will of the people" either. It just doesn't work like that.

Naturally it will come as a disappointment to the good citizens of New York if they cannot expropriate the property and lives of the citizens of Wyoming for the mere reason that there are more of the former, but if they expect the citizens of Wyoming to assent to a common government, there had better be guarantees that such cannot happen. The "democratic will of the people" must find itself thwarted thereby or there will be no assent to a common government, hence no government.

What "Jacobins" such as Bhaskar Sunkara really want is to have their central government and the power it confers in the absence of such safeguards. It isn't going to happen, and all the self-righteous squawking in the world isn't going to make it happen. In short, shut up, kid, and learn something about your world.

15 posted on 03/23/2016 4:04:53 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Jacobins formal name, “Society of the Friends of the Constitution”. Oh, the irony!


16 posted on 03/23/2016 4:04:59 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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“Charter of negative liberties” - Obama drove the nail into the coffin.

At length a Convention of the states has been assembled, they have formed a constitution which will now, probably, be submitted to the people to ratify or reject, who are the fountain of all power, to whom alone it of right belongs to make or unmake constitutions, or forms of government, at their pleasure. The most important question that was ever proposed to your decision, or to the decision of any people under heaven, is before you, and you are to decide upon it by men of your own election, chosen specially for this purpose. If the constitution, offered to your acceptance, be a wise one, calculated to preserve the invaluable blessings of liberty, to secure the inestimable rights of mankind, and promote human happiness, then, if you accept it, you will lay a lasting foundation of happiness for millions yet unborn; generations to come will rise up and call you blessed. You may rejoice in the prospects of this vast extended continent becoming filled with freemen, who will assert the dignity of human nature. You may solace yourselves with the idea, that society, in this favoured land, will fast advance to the highest point of perfection; the human mind will expand in knowledge and virtue, and the golden age be, in some measure, realised. But if, on the other hand, this form of government contains principles that will lead to the subversion of liberty — if it tends to establish a despotism, or, what is worse, a tyrannic aristocracy; then, if you adopt it, this only remaining assylum for liberty will be shut up, and posterity will execrate your memory.

Momentous then is the question you have to determine, and you are called upon by every motive which should influence a noble and virtuous mind, to examine it well, and to make up a wise judgment. It is insisted, indeed, that this constitution must be received, be it ever so imperfect. If it has its defects, it is said, they can be best amended when they are experienced. But remember, when the people once part with power, they can seldom or never resume it again but by force. Many instances can be produced in which the people have voluntarily increased the powers of their rulers; but few, if any, in which rulers have willingly abridged their authority. This is a sufficient reason to induce you to be careful, in the first instance, how you deposit the powers of government.

The first question that presents itself on the subject is, whether a confederated government be the best for the United States or not? Or in other words, whether the thirteen United States should be reduced to one great republic, governed by one legislature, and under the direction of one executive and judicial; or whether they should continue thirteen confederated republics, under the direction and controul of a supreme federal head for certain defined national purposes only?

ecuted, all that is reserved for the individual states must very soon be annihilated, except so far as they are barely necessary to the organization of the general government. The powers of the general legislature extend to every case that is of the least importance — there is nothing valuable to human nature, nothing dear to freemen, but what is within its power. It has authority to make laws which will affect the lives, the liberty, and property of every man in the United States; nor can the constitution or laws of any state, in any way prevent or impede the full and complete execution of every power given. The legislative power is competent to lay taxes, duties, imposts, and excises; — there is no limitation to this power, unless it be said that the clause which directs the use to which those taxes, and duties shall be applied, may be said to be a limitation: but this is no restriction of the power at all, for by this clause they are to be applied to pay the debts and provide for the common defence and general welfare of the United States; but the legislature have authority to contract debts at their discretion; they are the sole judges of what is necessary to provide for the common defence, and they only are to determine what is for the general welfare; this power therefore is neither more nor less, than a power to lay and collect taxes, imposts, and excises, at their pleasure; not only [is] the power to lay taxes unlimited, as to the amount they may require, but it is perfect and absolute to raise them in any mode they please. No state legislature, or any power in the state governments, have any more to do in carrying this into effect, than the authority of one state has to do with that of another. In the business therefore of laying and collecting taxes, the idea of confederation is totally lost, and that of one entire republic is embraced. It is proper here to remark, that the authority to lay and collect taxes is the most important of any power that can be granted; it connects with it almost all other powers, or at least will in process of time draw all other after it; it is the great mean of protection, security, and defence, in a good government, and the great engine of oppression and tyranny in a bad one. This cannot fail of being the case, if we consider the contracted limits which are set by this constitution, to the late [state?] governments, on this article of raising money. No state can emit paper money — lay any duties, or imposts, on imports, or exports, but by consent of the Congress; and then the net produce shall be for the benefit of the United States: the only mean therefore left, for any state to support its government and discharge its debts, is by direct taxation; and the United States have also power to lay and collect taxes, in any way they please. Every one who has thought on the subject, must be convinced that but small sums of money can be collected in any country, by direct taxe[s], when the foederal government begins to exercise the right of taxation in all its parts, the legislatures of the several states will find it impossible to raise monies to support their governments. Without money they cannot be supported, and they must dwindle away, and, as before observed, their powers absorbed in that of the general government.

How far the clause in the 8th section of the 1st article may operate to do away all idea of confederated states, and to effect an entire consolidation of the whole into one general government, it is impossible to say. The powers given by this article are very general and comprehensive, and it may receive a construction to justify the passing almost any law. A power to make all laws, which shall be necessary and proper, for carrying into execution, all powers vested by the constitution in the government of the United States, or any department or officer thereof, is a power very comprehensive and definite [indefinite?], and may, for ought I know, be exercised in a such manner as entirely to abolish the state legislatures. Suppose the legislature of a state should pass a law to raise money to support their government and pay the state debt, may the Congress repeal this law, because it may prevent the collection of a tax which they may think proper and necessary to lay, to provide for the general welfare of the United States? For all laws made, in pursuance of this constitution, are the supreme lay of the land, and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, any thing in the constitution or laws of the different states to the contrary notwithstanding. — By such a law, the government of a particular state might be overturned at one stroke, and thereby be deprived of every means of its support.

It is not meant, by stating this case, to insinuate that the constitution would warrant a law of this kind; or unnecessarily to alarm the fears of the people, by suggesting, that the federal legislature would be more likely to pass the limits assigned them by the constitution, than that of an individual state, further than they are less responsible to the people. But what is meant is, that the legislature of the United States are vested with the great and uncontroulable powers, of laying and collecting taxes, duties, imposts, and excises; of regulating trade, raising and supporting armies, organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, instituting courts, and other general powers. And are by this clause invested with the power of making all laws, proper and necessary, for carrying all these into execution; and they may so exercise this power as entirely to annihilate all the state governments, and reduce this country to one single government. And if they may do it, it is pretty certain they will; for it will be found that the power retained by individual states, small as it is, will be a clog upon the wheels of the government of the United States; the latter therefore will be naturally inclined to remove it out of the way. Besides, it is a truth confirmed by the unerring experience of ages, that every man, and every body of men, invested with power, are ever disposed to increase it, and to acquire a superiority over every thing that stands in their way. This disposition, which is implanted in human nature, will operate in the federal legislature to lessen and ultimately to subvert the state authority, and having such advantages, will most certainly succeed, if the federal government succeeds at all. It must be very evident then, that what this constitution wants of being a complete consolidation of the several parts of the union into one complete government, possessed of perfect legislative, judicial, and executive powers, to all intents and purposes, it will necessarily acquire in its exercise and operation.

Let us now proceed to enquire, as I at first proposed, whether it be best the thirteen United States should be reduced to one great republic, or not? It is here taken for granted, that all agree in this, that whatever government we adopt, it ought to be a free one; that it should be so framed as to secure the liberty of the citizens of America, and such an one as to admit of a full, fair, and equal representation of the people. The question then will be, whether a government thus constituted, and founded on such principles, is practicable, and can be exercised over the whole United States, reduced into one state?

If respect is to be paid to the opinion of the greatest and wisest men who have ever thought or wrote on the science of government, we shall be constrained to conclude, that a free republic cannot succeed over a country of such immense extent, containing such a number of inhabitants, and these encreasing in such rapid progression as that of the whole United States. Among the many illustrious authorities which might be produced to this point, I shall content myself with quoting only two. The one is the baron de Montesquieu, spirit of laws, chap. xvi. vol. I [book VIII]. “It is natural to a republic to have only a small territory, otherwise it cannot long subsist. In a large republic there are men of large fortunes, and consequently of less moderation; there are trusts too great to be placed in any single subject; he has interest of his own; he soon begins to think that he may be happy, great and glorious, by oppressing his fellow citizens; and that he may raise himself to grandeur on the ruins of his country. In a large republic, the public good is sacrificed to a thousand views; it is subordinate to exceptions, and depends on accidents. In a small one, the interest of the public is easier perceived, better understood, and more within the reach of every citizen; abuses are of less extent, and of course are less protected.” Of the same opinion is the marquis Beccarari.

History furnishes no example of a free republic, any thing like the extent of the United States.

Anti-federalist Brutus #1

“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”


17 posted on 03/23/2016 4:06:10 PM PDT by PGalt
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I’ve got a splendid idea - let’s burn socialists and communists instead.


18 posted on 03/23/2016 4:10:32 PM PDT by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: Olog-hai
Ackerman's article argues that the Constitution, with its governmental checks and balances, prevents "the democratic will" and "popular sovereignty."

Gee, evasion of that pesky tyranny of the majority thingy, and the fact that mob rule sometimes can make mistakes.

19 posted on 03/23/2016 4:11:12 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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If we’re going to go that far, then these are enemy combatants. They live by Lenin’s dictum:
Dictatorship is state power based directly on violence. …

Please note once and for all, you Cadet gentlemen, that dictatorship means unlimited power, based on force and not on law. …
Deportation means they come back to try again.
20 posted on 03/23/2016 4:11:13 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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