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Trump, the Greatest Threat to the Establishment since JFK
US Defense Watch ^ | February 28, 2016 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 02/28/2016 7:19:08 PM PST by pboyington

America once had a president who sought peace, but with a firm hand; a president who vowed to crush the Federal Reserve, who warned the nation about secret societies, who wanted to shut down the military-industrial complex and the CIA itself; a young president who wanted nothing to do with the killing fields of Southeast Asia.

That president made a lot of enemies, people who were much more powerful than his wealthy Boston-Irish family. The enemies included Big Oil, the Joint Chiefs, the military-industrial complex and the intelligence community, and one very sick and twisted Vice President, Lyndon Baines Johnson.

The hopes and dreams of the nation were shattered by ASSASSINS’ bullets on November 22, 1963. Since that sunny day in Texas, the energy of the nation seems to have been sapped, and the country has never really recovered. We have had some high points, but we have never revisited that unbridled optimism we embraced when Jack Kennedy was president.

There are dark forces that have been manipulating this nation for fifty years. The results of their evil efforts can be seen everywhere you look.

The United States of America is on the verge of a complete social and economic collapse. The country is in serious decline and the average American is being screwed over by forces of greed and corrupt government.

The US economy is an unmitigated disaster with no hope of recovering unless serious changes are made. The economy is a giant fraudulent house of cards about ready to come down. Our real unemployment rate is probably 20-25%. The government’s figures of 4.9% are simply ludicrous and dangerous lies. Over 90 million Americans are out of the workforce and 50 million Americans are living on food stamps. People are working two or three jobs just to make ends meet.

Why is the unemployment rate horrific? American jobs and factories and corporations have vanished from the republic and have taken up residence in Mexico and China and everywhere on Earth except here. Who benefits from this? Certainly Americans don’t, but American corporations do; American corporations that have used free trade deals as an excuse to line their pockets and screw the middle class’ ability to earn a living wage.

Contributing to the loss of jobs for American citizens, especially blue collar jobs, is the endless stream of illegal immigrants to the US. The doors of the nation are wide open and the Border Patrol is under orders to look the other way. Most of the 20 million illegals are honest people seeking a better life, albeit by illegally entering the nation. Some illegals are violent criminals and nothing is done to them by local law enforcement, which is under orders from the Feds to leave the illegals alone. Who benefits from the US having no border security and American wages in the basement? Big business does. The American people certainly don’t. The American people are in world of hurt.

A country that doesn’t secure its borders is no longer a country. Securing your borders, building a wall and creating a system where immigrants become legal residents is not being racist, it’s being prudent.

Since 9-11, a day whose events have been twisted into a fairy tale only the Brothers Grimm could have written, the US has been involved in endless wars, wars that we are not winning and which seemingly have no end. Who has gained from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the War on Terror? The military-industrial complex has. Endless wars equal massive profits. Who loses? The American people who have shed their blood and their civil rights to fight wars with no end in sight lose.

Enter Mr. Trump…

Trump’s mantra is simple. He’s going to make America great again. He will do that by securing our borders and deporting illegals. Jobs that illegals once had will be in the hands of Americans. Trump will bring back American companies from overseas by lowering the corporate tax rate for them here.

Trump knows better than any candidate that the War on Terror is an endless moneymaker for the national security complex and an endless drain of lives for the American people. He is going to shut down the endless wars and conduct a foreign policy based on strength. When and if we do have to go to war again, we are going to go in big as in Desert Storm and get the job done.

Donald Trump wants to audit the Federal Reserve. No American President has said this since John F. Kennedy. No American Presidential candidate has said this since Ron Paul, who was never considered a serious threat to the Establishment.

Last week Trump vowed to prosecute Hillary Clinton for national security crimes if he is elected. Of course the Clinton campaign shrugged this off with a guffaw. In their minds, Hillary has never done anything wrong. In Hillary’s mind, the motto is whatever it takes; even if it includes stealing, lying and God knows what else.

Days before the demise of Jeb! Bush, Trump vowed to get to the bottom of the events surrounding 9-11. Strangely, Jeb! decided to call it quits after that.

There are no coincidences…

Months ago, Trump was shrugged off by both the DNC and RNC Establishments as a modern day PT Barnum with a big mouth and an equally big bank account. Trump’s campaign was obviously some kind of reality show gimmick that would disappear as quickly as it had arrived.

But, as the months passed and his message began to resonate, a candidate considered to be a joke, is now considered to be the greatest threat to the establishment since JFK.

A Trump presidency would end big business’ manipulation of US wages by ending the stream of millions of illegals who work for low wages, therefore driving down the wages of American citizens.

A Trump presidency would bring back American jobs stolen by foreign countries. A Trump presidency would have at the helm a man with billions who bows to no one except Jesus Christ.

A Trump presidency would put a damper on the endless profits the defense contractors are making from perpetual, unwinnable US wars. By shutting down the wars, there would be less of a need for the massive national security octopus that has been out of control since 9-11.

There are a myriad of lobbyists from big business, the defense industry and foreign representatives who have members of Congress, and federal and state government officials in their pockets.

The US Government has been bought and sold and so have the majority of the presidential candidates minus Dr. Carson, Bernie Sanders and of course, Trump.

The Establishment is currently in a frenzy. Their initial plan called for a Jeb! vs. Hillary election with a continual downward slide for the American people and an upward slide for the powers that be. When Republican voters overwhelmingly declined an invitation to war and economic disaster from another Bush, the GOP Establishment went into a panic mode.

The current strategy is to use Rubio as a mouthpiece to discredit Trump. Rubio couldn’t be elected to dog catcher, but that doesn’t matter. What matters is stopping Trump. When Rubio blasts Trump for not presenting his taxes to the American people, Rubio fails to explain to the country how a US Senator earning 174,000 dollars a year had a gross annual income last year of 1.3 million dollars.

When Rubio goes down with the ship on March 15th, and garners a third or fourth place showing in the Florida Primary, he will fade out into the Miami sunset and back to his job as a ghost payroller in the US Senate.

After Rubio and Cruz are bludgeoned by Trump, the next clown to appear will be Mitt Romney. Romney is about as marketable as a severe case of the Zika Virus, but that doesn’t matter. What matters is stopping Trump.

When Mitt garners about as much enthusiasm as Jebediah did, the RNC will resort to massive shenanigans at the convention this summer. There will be every crooked attempt made to destroy Trump’s nomination.

When that fails, the RNC may drag out a third party candidate. This could result in actually four candidates for President: Hillary, Trump, the RNC Puppet and possibly Michael Bloomberg, running on the Nanny State Party Ticket.

The fate of the republic may very well be decided in the 2016 Election. This country is in a downward spiral. Donald Trump is the only candidate who can save the nation in this grave hour.

Roger Stone said it best, “It’s either President Trump or a Thousand Years of Darkness for the United States of America.”

Which one will it be?


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KEYWORDS: jfk; rnc; rubio; trump
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To: Toddsterpatriot

What I am showing you (the one who said that Kennedy and the Fed did not have any reason for a beef), is that there was a reason for enmity between the Fed and Kennedy.

If you can’t determine that this is potential motive, there is no hope for you.

It’s not proof the Fed was involved, but as in any investigation, the FIRST thing you do is look at what parties benefit from the death.

Is it your supposition that the Fed had no reason for concern given EO 11110 and the printing of notes that did not allow the Fed to make their rediscount rate?

I await an cogent, reasonable answer to a reasonable question.


101 posted on 02/29/2016 3:50:46 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain
What I am showing you (the one who said that Kennedy and the Fed did not have any reason for a beef), is that there was a reason for enmity between the Fed and Kennedy.

I haven't seen any proof there was enmity.

Is it your supposition that the Fed had no reason for concern given EO 11110 and the printing of notes that did not allow the Fed to make their rediscount rate?

Why do you feel these other notes would impact the discount rate? Do you know what the Fed does with their earnings? If you do, why do you think they'd care if their earnings were reduced?

102 posted on 02/29/2016 6:49:20 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

In your world, if a suspect gains from insurance money due to the death of a spouse, there’s no proof of enmity. Of course, MONEY is a motive.

As far as earnings of the Fed, think of all those high ranking Fed employees/owners - who would, if ALL the currency in the US were to be printed by the Treasury department as US Notes instead of Federal Reserve Notes, would therefor be out of work? Does not matter where the “earnings” or profit “goes”. What is the root of the issue is - if this situation were allowed to continue, and expand, what would have been the future for the Fed? Obsolescence.

Now, that being said, does not prove implication in the Kennedy murder, but it does put them into the group of people who had *something* to gain. It’s a big group of folks, too.

However, to state that the Fed had no concern RE: Kennedy is non-sensical. He was stepping on their toes.


103 posted on 02/29/2016 7:19:39 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain
In your world, if a suspect gains from insurance money due to the death of a spouse, there’s no proof of enmity. Of course, MONEY is a motive.

In my world if you claim there was enmity, I'd like to see proof there was enmity.

Maybe some speeches where Kennedy criticized the Fed and then some sort of response from the Fed. Or is your only proof of enmity EO 11110?

As far as earnings of the Fed, think of all those high ranking Fed employees/owners

Yes, you should explain, separately, how those 2 groups would be impacted by the EO.

who would, if ALL the currency in the US were to be printed by the Treasury department as US Notes instead of Federal Reserve Notes, would therefor be out of work?

Wait, you think the EO had something to do with US notes?

Does not matter where the “earnings” or profit “goes”.

That sounds like you don't know where the profit goes. Can you tell me where it goes?

What is the root of the issue is - if this situation were allowed to continue, and expand, what would have been the future for the Fed?

Do you think somehow Federal Reserve Notes would have been discontinued?

104 posted on 02/29/2016 10:16:14 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
It's OK if you admit you and/or your family has worked for the Federal Reserve. That's the only explanation I can come up with your constant side-tracking of a SIMPLE question --- You never answered my question. Clearly, you don't know how to hold a conversation.
105 posted on 03/01/2016 3:36:33 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain
It's OK if you admit you and/or your family has worked for the Federal Reserve.

Only Fed employees can refute your error-filled, conspiratorial nonsense?

You never answered my question.

I'm still waiting for you to post proof of enmity.

That's the only explanation I can come up with your constant side-tracking of a SIMPLE question

This one?

if ALL the currency in the US were to be printed by the Treasury department as US Notes instead of Federal Reserve Notes, would therefor be out of work?

No. US notes would not put the Fed out of business.

Did you ever figure out what the Fed does with their annual profit.

More importantly, why do you keep mentioning US Notes when EO 11110 had nothing to do with US Notes?

106 posted on 03/01/2016 4:59:50 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: pboyington
You lost me at the title.

There's a myth that JFK was some kind of anti-Establishment maverick, but look at who he appointed to office: Harvard, Ford Motor Company, Wall Street.

Kennedy was Establishment to the core. All the more so since, as an Irish Catholic, he had to prove that he had arrived and truly belonged to the elite.

107 posted on 03/01/2016 5:10:50 PM PST by x
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Is the Federal Reserve part of our government, or a private institution?

Can you answer that?

Have you or your family ever been in their employ?

You seem to ask a lot of questions but answer none, so I am taking a page from your book


108 posted on 03/01/2016 6:25:20 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain
Is the Federal Reserve part of our government, or a private institution?

Part of the government.

Have you or your family ever been in their employ?

No.

Does EO 11110 mention US Notes?

109 posted on 03/01/2016 6:26:47 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: pboyington

I voted for JFK, my first presidential vote!!He was not that great a president and I don’t think that he would have won re-election. By the way, that was the last time that I voted for a Democrat for president.....or much else other than locally (I knew the candidates).


110 posted on 03/01/2016 8:34:33 PM PST by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL!)
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To: octex
Rubio fails to explain to the country how a US Senator earning 174,000 dollars a year had a gross annual income last year of 1.3 million dollars. ***************************************** That’s a winner statement, if there is backup sources to support it. Did Little Marco’s tax statements do so?

Publishers clearing house probably paid him BIG....I am waiting now for my check to be delivered....I just gave them a prepaid debit card to cover the $500.00 fee for the crew to come to my door with T.V. cameras and everything!!!....eat your heart out!!

111 posted on 03/01/2016 8:56:35 PM PST by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL!)
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To: BereanBrain
if ALL the currency in the US were to be printed by the Treasury department as US Notes instead of Federal Reserve Notes,

Still looking for US Notes in EO 11110?

Does not matter where the “earnings” or profit “goes”.

Still trying to find where the Fed's earnings go?

112 posted on 03/04/2016 1:05:49 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

EO 11110 and printing of Federal Notes - vs Federal Reserve Notes IS a big difference. EO11110 was preparing for life after the Federal Reserve . It, coupled with the ability to issue directly Federal (Treasury) notes implied a future ability to dump the Federal Reserve in it’s entirety. If you don’t think it was a big deal, then why don’t we simply dissolve the Federal Reserve? If there is no difference between Federal notes vs Federal Reserve why do we have them?

If there are no profits, no money held anywhere, how then was 7.7 Trillion used to bail out US banks? http://theweek.com/articles/479867/federal-reserves-breathtaking-77-trillion-bank-bailout

If there are no profits, no money held, how do you lend foreign banks 9 Trillion dollars? Can the Fed even answer simple questions elected congressmen have about WHERE money went? https://youtu.be/n0NYBTkE1yQ

What was QE? QE2? If the Fed simply “prints” money at their pace, does not that in effect, lower the value of the dollar if they “ease” money? Does not that make imports more expensive?

The Fed was NOT the intent of the original founders.

Many people want a proper audit and oversight of the Fed, especially after their bailing out of foreign markets/banks.

If they are (as you and the Fed claim) a “part” of government, is it the scope of our government to have the decision made to bail out Europe without involving any oversight of Congress or the President?

Lastly, what if a Non-profit was spending lots of money on things other than it’s primary purpose? It would NOT show a profit, but would that mean we should no keep a eye on what they were spending?


113 posted on 03/04/2016 3:19:11 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain
EO 11110 and printing of Federal Notes - vs Federal Reserve Notes IS a big difference.

What's the difference?

EO11110 was preparing for life after the Federal Reserve .

It had nothing to do with a supposed end to the Fed.

It, coupled with the ability to issue directly Federal (Treasury) notes implied a future ability to dump the Federal Reserve in it’s entirety.

It said nothing about issuing Treasury Notes.

If there are no profits,

Who said there were no profits?

I asked you what they did with their (huge!) profits.

The Fed was NOT the intent of the original founders.

One of the first things the Founders did was create a Central Bank in 1791.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Bank_of_the_United_States

114 posted on 03/04/2016 4:15:43 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_central_banking_in_the_United_States


115 posted on 03/04/2016 5:16:36 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain

As a result, the First Bank of the United States (1791–1811) was chartered by Congress within the year and signed by George Washington soon after.


116 posted on 03/04/2016 5:20:04 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Now that we agree that the Founders were not against Central Banks, because they created one in 1791, let's see if we can agree about EO 11110.

A 2010 article in Research magazine discussing various controversies surrounding the Federal Reserve stated that "the wildest accusation against the Fed is that it was involved in Kennedy's assassination."[17] Critics of the theory note that Kennedy called for and signed legislation phasing out Silver Certificates in favor of Federal Reserve Notes, thereby enhancing the power of the Federal Reserve; and that Executive Order 11110 was a technicality that only delegated existing presidential powers to the Secretary of the Treasury for administrative convenience during a period of transition.[17][18]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110

You may also notice that there is no mention of United States Notes in that "article" about EO 11110.

117 posted on 03/15/2016 10:50:19 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: BereanBrain
Now that we agree that the Founders were not against Central Banks, because they created one in 1791, let's see if we can agree about EO 11110.

A 2010 article in Research magazine discussing various controversies surrounding the Federal Reserve stated that "the wildest accusation against the Fed is that it was involved in Kennedy's assassination."[17] Critics of the theory note that Kennedy called for and signed legislation phasing out Silver Certificates in favor of Federal Reserve Notes, thereby enhancing the power of the Federal Reserve; and that Executive Order 11110 was a technicality that only delegated existing presidential powers to the Secretary of the Treasury for administrative convenience during a period of transition.[17][18]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110

You may also notice that there is no mention of United States Notes in that "article" about EO 11110.

118 posted on 03/15/2016 10:52:49 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

But what did the treasury DO with their direction from EO 11110?
They printed sliver backed notes, bearing the device of “United States Note” not “Federal Reserve Note”.

Take for example, any other EO, that for example mentions activities of border control. No, Obama’s wording of the EO did not specifically say “catch and release” but that’s the outflow of the order.

Just as people read between the lines, so does the government write between the lines.


119 posted on 03/15/2016 10:59:23 AM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain
But what did the treasury DO with their direction from EO 11110?

They printed sliver backed notes, bearing the device of “United States Note” not “Federal Reserve Note”.

No, they did not say "United States Note", silver certificates said "Silver Certificate".

EO 11110 let them print more silver certificates, for a limited time, before they replaced them with $1 and $2 FRNs.

It was never about US Notes or eliminating the Fed or eliminating FRNs.

120 posted on 03/15/2016 11:05:10 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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