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Why is Cruz different from Obama?
Me | 2/26/16 | Me

Posted on 02/26/2016 10:52:34 PM PST by ebshumidors

We used to go crazy because of Obama's birth in Kenya to a foreign father and American mother. How is Ted Cruz different? Would a child born here to foreigners be any different? That's Marco's plight. I'm interested in seeing how the poo flings and also if instead of Marco or Ted, the child's first name was Mohammed twenty years from now with massive immigration and amnesty.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2016election; canada; canadian; cruz; cruzbio; cuba; dividedloyalty; dualcitizenship; election2016; florida; kenyanbornmuzzie; marcorubio; nbc; obama; rubio; tedcruz; texas; youresovain
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To: napscoordinator

“If in 1776, we were able to find a guy to run for president born on America soil, certainly we can in 2016. It is a slap in the face to George Washington that Cruz dates to run for president in our great country. Let him run in Canada.”

Just to clarify the historical record. George Washington was not elected President of the United States in 1776. There was no “President” as we know it until 1789. In 1776 the highest political authority in the United States after Independence was the President of the Continental Congress and later it was the President of the Congress Under the Articles of Confederation. From 1776 to 1789, fourteen men held that position (a couple held it twice or once in different establishments). Of those fourteen, two were foreign born (Charles Thomson - Ireland & Arthur St Clair - Scotland).

As for Canada in 1776, it was a colony just like the other 13. While it had no representatives in Congress, it did have soldiers serving in the American Army against the British (1st Canadian Regiment 1775-81 & 2nd Canadian Regiment “Congress’ Own” 1776-83). These troops were recruited in Quebec. One of the reasons the British kept large bodies of troops in Canada throughout the war was a fear that it would join the 13 other rebellious colonies.


61 posted on 02/27/2016 4:18:28 AM PST by XRdsRev (New Jersey - Crossroads of the American Revolution)
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To: XRdsRev

Forgot to mention that early on in the American Revolution 1775, an American Army moved into the Canadian Colony in an effort to drive out the British and allow it to join the Confederation. American troops captured Montreal but were defeated at the Battle of Quebec City and hopes for Canada joining the other colonies were dashed.


62 posted on 02/27/2016 4:27:02 AM PST by XRdsRev (New Jersey - Crossroads of the American Revolution)
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To: Impy

Nice summation.


63 posted on 02/27/2016 4:31:43 AM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Yosemitest

Are you still posting that ill-relevant cut and paste tripe?

Same on you!


64 posted on 02/27/2016 4:55:11 AM PST by Forty-Niner
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To: ebshumidors

Was Lee Harvey Oswald NBC?

If we want to get into hypotheticals... A child born to two US parents in the middle of Kansas could move to Abu-Dhabi at the age of 10 after his dad is transferred by his oil company. They are there for 15 years. While there, the child goes from primary school through college and is radicalized and taught everything upside down from our country’s values. Then he returns to the US at age 25, landing in some liberal scum-bucket city, is later elected to local office and works his way up to Governor or US Senate and later runs for president and E-O’s tolerance for sharia-law (or at least, refuses to enforce US law over Sharia). Political correctness in the media and pop-culture would serve to insulate that radicalized president and highlight and swoon over how “cool” it is to have such a “worldly” president, paving the way for the next, more lefty/radical president. Always ratchet to the left. Never to the right.

Can’t possibly happen you say? I would point you to Bernie Sanders as someone who is a bat-crap crazy-lib/prog and utterly repulsive to our country’s founding ideals that actually stands as good a chance as any of being nominated. Considering the liberal-leaning tendencies of *at least* half (if not slightly more) of today’s voting populace, that should not be too far of a stretch.

My main point is that I don’t think the candidate is necessarily the *worst* of the problems. The candidate can be problematic for sure, but not one that *should* be able to doom the country all by themselves. The country should be able to survive a bad president for 8 years, presuming we don’t keep electing country-dooming bad presidents consecutively. Damage would certainly be inflicted, but we should survive. What I don’t believe the country can survive is the continued persistence of a voting public who would elect the likes of 0bama — twice, or Sanders or Clinton. That problem — getting voters to stop voting with their hand held-out for their “fair-share” — defies remediation in the short term and would likely take generations to turn around.

Just my opinion and I hope to heaven I’m wrong.


65 posted on 02/27/2016 5:15:40 AM PST by jaydee770
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To: Impy; ebshumidors; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

Your post was correct in general terms, but got one detail wrong: The reason why a child of Stanley Ann Dunham and a non-U.S. citizen that was born in August 1961 outside of the U.S. or its territories would not be a U.S. citizen at bitth (and thus not a natural-born citizen) is not that Stanley Ann Dunham wasn’t 21 years old, it’s that she had not resided in the United States for at least 5 years after having turned 14.

The reason that we know with mathematical certainty that Dunham didn’t meet this second U.S. residency requirement (the first one—having resided in the U.S. for at least 10 years at any time in her life—she met in spades), without having to verify her travel records, is that to have lived anywhere for 5 years after having turned 14 one must be at least 19 years old, and Dunham was still 18 years old when Barack Obama was born.

So if you wish to use a shorthand of “Obama’s mother wouldn’t have been able to transfer her U.S. citizenship to him at birth had he been born abroad because ahe wasn’t yet X years old,” use 19 instead of 21.

But, as I said at the outset, that’s a minor detail in an otherwise correct post.


66 posted on 02/27/2016 5:32:02 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: ebshumidors

Cruz is running against Trump. That is the difference.


67 posted on 02/27/2016 5:44:04 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Maurice Tift

Great video. I’m sold.....Cruz can not be eligible and Barry sure as hell was not! ANYONE (I’m sure nobody here) that voted bath house....got duped!


68 posted on 02/27/2016 5:46:13 AM PST by koalkracker1981
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To: Crucial

‘I think. Trump is not going to have a cool head.’

Yes, that’s why Trump had the epic meltdown in the last debate after being continuously attacked by Cruz and Rubio, and being treated adversarily by the moderators for two and a half hours.

Oh wait...


69 posted on 02/27/2016 5:47:40 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Utmost Certainty
Cruz hasn’t accomplished anything.

Let me educate you:

As as senator, he could only push back against Obama and the complicit GOPe leadership. ...which he did, and I would bet you applauded his efforts.

Cruz served as a law clerk to J. Michael Luttig of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in 1995[45][47] and William Rehnquist, Chief Justice of the United States in 1996.[6] Cruz was the first Hispanic to clerk for a Chief Justice of the United States.[48]

Cruz assisted in assembling the Bush legal team, devising strategy, and drafting pleadings for filing with the Supreme Court of Florida and U.S. Supreme Court, in the case Bush v. Gore, during the 2000 Florida presidential recounts, leading to two wins for the Bush team.[45][52]

Cruz has authored 70 U.S. Supreme Court briefs and presented 43 oral arguments, including nine before the United States Supreme Court.[41][47][54] Cruz's record of having argued before the Supreme Court nine times is more than any practicing lawyer in Texas or any current member of Congress.[55] Cruz has commented on his nine cases in front of the U.S. Supreme Court: "We ended up year after year arguing some of the biggest cases in the country. There was a degree of serendipity in that, but there was also a concerted effort to seek out and lead conservative fights."[55]

In the landmark case of District of Columbia v. Heller, Cruz drafted the amicus brief signed by the attorneys general of 31 states, which said that the Washington, D.C. handgun ban should be struck down as infringing upon the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.[54][57] Cruz also presented oral argument for the amici states in the companion case to Heller before the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.[54][58]

Cruz at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, DC., 2011 In addition to his success in Heller, Cruz successfully defended the constitutionality of the Ten Commandments monument on the Texas State Capitol grounds before the Fifth Circuit and the U.S. Supreme Court, winning 5–4 in Van Orden v. Perry.[41][45][54]

70 posted on 02/27/2016 5:51:20 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: napscoordinator

George Washington was not born on American soil, he was grandfathered in


71 posted on 02/27/2016 5:56:24 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: ebshumidors

Not “we.” Birthers were a wacko minority of “we.”


72 posted on 02/27/2016 6:00:44 AM PST by Timmy
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To: TXSearcher

People who have never researched the debunked stories Obama has told about his birth simply have no grasp of the problem. In a nutshell, it’s this. Four or five Obama-friendly/Obot biographers have beaten the bushes in HI since Obama’s election. Not one of them has been able to discover even the flimsiest trace of his mother’s presence there following her final semester in college (in 1960). There is a notation in a record book that indicates she may have been in HI in Feb ‘61, but after that, nothing. It’s a black hole.

The only point that’s been established with certitude is that she and baby Obama NEVER lived at the ‘home address’ listed on the cut-and-paste birth certificate. That much has been verified.

Any knowledgeable, intelligent person would conclude she wasn’t there. Otherwise, she’d have left s one trace that would have been discovered by now. After all, there’s plenty of evidence of her whereabouts both before and after the pregnancy gap. There is only one gaping black hole.


73 posted on 02/27/2016 6:08:11 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Impy

‘One says BOTH parents must be born in this country citizens’

That is a strawman argument of the worst order. No credible Constitutional scholar has EVER promulgated that idiotic claim.


74 posted on 02/27/2016 6:17:56 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: TexasCajun

Yes, I did applaud his efforts. And he’s worthy of some praise for the actions you describe here before his time in the Senate.

But I look for traits and events that demonstrably exemplify leadership in a person. And to my knowledge, nothing of this sort comes to mind in Cruz. I think for now he is too green.

Perhaps in the future.


75 posted on 02/27/2016 6:20:46 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: teppe

‘Cruz has on many occasions made a principled stand against both DC and the Republican Establishment!
When did O’Bama call his parties leadership a liar on the floor of the Senate?’

What did any of that actually accomplish? I.e.: was any bad legislation stopped? Was any good legislation passed?


76 posted on 02/27/2016 6:26:57 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: TexasCajun

So you’re saying if we’re looking to hire a lawyer, Cruz is our guy.


77 posted on 02/27/2016 6:32:47 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: ebshumidors

The NBC presidential requirement was de facto changed with the election of the usurper, 0bama.


78 posted on 02/27/2016 6:59:24 AM PST by lakecumberlandvet (APPEASEMENT NEVER WORKS.)
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To: Fantasywriter

If you looking for a man that will lead & fight for our Constitutions rights, yes, Cruz is the man for the job.


79 posted on 02/27/2016 8:17:48 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: ebshumidors

Ping for later


80 posted on 02/27/2016 8:28:14 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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