Posted on 02/22/2016 6:16:16 PM PST by GilGil
I just heard the O'Reilly Factor where Cruz and Rubio were interviewed.
The first revelation is that their immigration policies when it comes to deporting illegals is virtually identical to Trump's including the part about rounding up the 11 million illegals and deporting them. I was simply amazed. O'Reilly asked both candidates if they would deport the 11 million illegals and they both said that they would. Six months ago they were not this clear about immigration deportations.
The more interesting answer was from Cruz. O'Reilly suggested that it could not be done because the illegals were entitled to the due process provision of the law. Cruz emphatically said that this was not true and that using ICE the president had the total legal authority to deport illegal aliens in this country. Cruz re-emphasized that with his legal background this was the case.
O'Reilly argued a bit with Cruz and Cruz said that he knew for a fact the president had the total legal authority to deport whoever is here illegally without going through the courts.
Cruz in essence confirmed that what Trump wanted to do regarding deportation all these months is 100% legal and doable under the authority given the president. That was an amazing admission on Cruz' part and a confirmation that Trump as president can indeed deport whoever is in the US illegally. It also confirms that Trump has some pretty good legal advisers on his team and that he knows exactly what he is talking about.
What amazed me about Cruz’ admission is that he in essence made Trump right by supporting Trump’s argument for deportation. that is what amazed me. Cruz was in essence helping Trump. I don’t think that is what he intended.
Not entirely true. Courts will find a way to slow down some of it but it doesnât matter, if thereâs a will, the President can certainly do plenty.
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The deportation process is an Executive Branch action. Indeed, the Executive Branch has insisted in litigation that it is not a Judicial Branch matter. The Immigration Judges reside in the Justice Department and they are the ones who make the decisions on deportation. Therefore, it is uniquely an Executive Branch action and controlled by the President through the Attorney General.
Cruz sneered about Trump allowing them back the ‘’right way.’’
But, no one asked Ted what he would do about deportees who come back ‘’the right way’’as if there is not a right way to come back.
Wow. Trump is pure. Hahaha.
Well, he’s not my senator, but I don’t dislike him. He is human though, and not infallible. He wouldn’t be the first person to fall for Ted Cruz’s lies. I’m pretty sure some segment of the people watching O’Reilly who heard Ted say that Trump would give them all amnesty will believe that too.
“Trump deports them but letâs 90% right back in. Touch back amnesty.”
Amnesty implies citizenship. That is implicitly not part of Trump’s plan and it is dishonest of you to use the term like that.
And just where exactly do you get the 90%?
The other side of Trump’s plan is to enforce the existing immigration laws which means that millions of the deported will not be able to find jobs because employers won’t hire them.
You are, perhaps by lack of knowledge, repeating a 1/2 truth.
Entitled to your opinion. Agree to disagree.
I saw the show, and I do not agree that Rubio had the same message as Cruz and Trump. Rubio was pure double-talk. It boiled down to “No,” as far as deporting.
Cruz was doing great . . . then he couldn’t help himself . . . had to throw down another lie about Trump (being for citizenship).
Anyway, O’Reilly was asking them both if they would deport an Irishman whose visa expired.
I couldn’t help but imagine Trump getting the same question and answering: “Yes, and Canadians too.”
And in 2013 Cruz was talking legal status. and in the beginning of this campaign, Cruz said nothing - pretty much ignored the issue. only after he saw what Trump said was popular did he copy.
Looks like he’s still copying.
I support Cruz, but how can this be true? Suppose the President decides to deport a US citizen (or an alien with a green card) by claiming that the person is an illegal alien? Presumably that person could seek relief in the court system.
I think all the gung-ho throw-em-out-now supporters should rethink how much power they want to give to the executive branch. Unchecked power has a way of coming back to bite you.
I took me 14 years to become a citizen of this country. I cam in legally. That is why I understand what Trump is saying that they can come back in legally. To come into the US legally is very hard. You first have to start by getting a green card and that is very difficult.
This touch back bs is total bs when you are forced to use the legal immigration process. When Trump says the “good ones” it means the ones who are able to go through the process legally which is a vetting process. For example, at soe point along the 14 years I had to get fingerprinted and have a background check. If you pass all these hurdles that makes you a “good one.”
As I said coming into the US legally is not very easy and not a guarantee you will succeed.
“Trump deports them but letâs 90% right back in. Touch back amnesty.”
Absolutely not what he said. He said all illegals would be sent out of the United States and the ones with no criminal records could apply to come back in and go through the proper channels. Criminals and those with no jobs not coming back in. That would eliminate millions and millions.The point is if you’re here illegally you’re going back to Mexico. No amnesty about it. He has never said 11 million illegals would be granted amnesty. Once again lying Rafael just can’t control himself. It’s pathological. You would think he would keep his mouth shut about Trump after having his ass handed to him in SC, but he’s not smart enough.
Look for him to lose big time on Super Tues, both he and Roboto, then because he has no support from anyone, to endorse Roboto after being offered the AG job.
Yes he did, enforcement dropped under the GWB administration. It became non-existent under 0
“If Cruz was talking about it in 2011, his balls dropped off sometime after that, because for 9 months during this Presidential campaign he would not talk about what to do with the illegals already here.”
I should’ve kept reading - I just said the same thing, but not in such a forthright way ;)
“If Cruz was talking about it in 2011, his balls dropped off sometime after that, because for 9 months during this Presidential campaign he would not talk about what to do with the illegals already here.”
I should’ve kept reading - I just said the same thing, but not in such a forthright way ;)
Some of these trumpbots are truly blinded by the light and some are paid shills.
From an interview with Hannity this year.
(TRUMP) . . . these (illegal aliens) can be some great people-- but, you either have laws or you don't have laws. I would get them back, I would get them back where they are, and I would try to work out a process where they can come in legally. But, they have to come in legally, it's about laws, it's about borders. If we don't have a border, we don't have a country. So, I get them out, and if they were really outstanding, because some of these people have been here for a long period of time, I'd let them back legally. They have to come through a legal system, and I'd make that system much faster, much quicker. I want people to come into the country. I love the fact that people come into the country, but they have to come in legally. Not only them, other people. We welcome people, I mean, my parents and my grandparents, they came from different parts of the world, too. We all sort of did when you get right down to it. . . .
I would expedite [the process], because some of these people (illegal aliens) are fantastic people. I've been to the border, I was there a few days ago. I met some people, these are fantastic people and they have great reputations within the community. So what I'd do is that I would expedite it. You have to have laws. If you don't have laws, you don't have a country. I would get them out, and I would try, the good ones -- the bad ones, they're gone, they never come back. They'll never get back into this country. But, the good ones, of which there are many, I want to expedite it so they can come back in legally.
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