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To: ETL

Isn’t the problem in any of these discussions that there really isn’t a sealed system in existence?

Gravitational pull works on any size object, and the universe as a whole affects every part. The observer would have to be in a system outside of the universe, but there are more universes which would exert their own force on the system.


33 posted on 02/12/2016 11:11:43 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: wbarmy
Isn't the problem in any of these discussions that there really isn't a sealed system in existence?

That is just a way of simplifying the situation to demonstrate that the math would be the same in either case.

But imagine being inside a sealed container floating in space. As long as you were moving at a constant rate of speed in the same straight line direction, ie, in a state of inertial motion, you wouldn't be able to tell if you were in fact moving at all. It's only when an outside force is introduced (energy is applied) that you would be able to detect a change in your situation. Even then, you wouldn't necessarily know if the container was being drawn to some planet gravitationally or if there were some force pushing the container in a particular direction causing you to accelerate.

Similarly, if some outside force caused you to change direction, you would detect that as well, via the centrifugal force. ie, your weight would shift to one side.

34 posted on 02/12/2016 12:02:11 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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