Posted on 02/09/2016 7:37:38 AM PST by xzins
Part One is exactly as advertised. If you are going to be offended by Profanity go read something else. There, I've done my part.
Profanity serves a purpose in the military. General Patton explained; "When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty. It may not sound nice to some bunch of little old ladies at an afternoon tea party, but it helps my soldiers to remember. You can't run an Army without profanity; and it has to be eloquent profanity. An Army without profanity couldn't fight it's way out of a piss-soaked paper bag."
"Men, this stuff that some sources sling around about America wanting out of this war, not wanting to fight, is a crock of bullshit. Americans love to fight, traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. You are here today for three reasons. First, because you are here to defend your homes and your loved ones. Second, you are here for your own self respect, because you would not want to be anywhere else. Third, you are here because you are real men and all real men like to fight. When you, here, everyone of you, were kids, you all admired the champion marble player, the fastest runner, the toughest boxer, the big league ball players, and the All-American football players. Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win all of the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor will ever lose a war; for the very idea of losing is hateful to an American."
"Each man must not think only of himself, but also of his buddy fighting beside him. We don't want yellow cowards in this Army. They should be killed off like rats. If not, they will go home after this war and breed more cowards. The brave men will breed more brave men. Kill off the Goddamned cowards and we will have a nation of brave men. One of the bravest men that I ever saw was a fellow on top of a telegraph pole in the midst of a furious fire fight in Tunisia. I stopped and asked what the hell he was doing up there at a time like that. He answered, "Fixing the wire, Sir". I asked, "Isn't that a little unhealthy right about now?" He answered, "Yes Sir, but the Goddamned wire has to be fixed". I asked, "Don't those planes strafing the road bother you?" And he answered, "No, Sir, but you sure as hell do!" Now, there was a real man. A real soldier. There was a man who devoted all he had to his duty, no matter how seemingly insignificant his duty might appear at the time, no matter how great the odds". ...snip....
As a Cuban immigrant, was he subject to the US draft?
I agree. You could not find two more opposite men in temperament in many ways.
Washington, the icy, calm exterior, fighting constantly to keep the emotional beasts inside him from getting out. He was, by all accounts, a passionate man about many things who struggled not to let people ever see it.
Patton, who liked letting his emotional beasts run wild, both as a matter of personality, and as a player on a stage or a general trying to make a point, but harboring an inner calm area that he presented as a shell and used as a tool.
I do believe Patton did have brain injuries that contributed to his wild mood swings, particularly from the kick to the head he got from a polo pony.
But both great men who rose to the occasion when needed, and both had vision of what they had to do. (Of course, Patton also had memories of what he had done thousands of years before...:)
There are a lot of people that make that kind of association.
Most men I have known try to suppress that as they get older. Me...well, I try. I try every day to hold my emotions from ruling my tongue, but I fail. I tried keeping a swear jar (in conjunction with a woman in the same area who was trying to do the same thing) at work, but...it got silly. Just kept filling up.
But, that is, to me, a conservative trait. I am imperfect, but I don’t accept that and decide to live with it. I grapple with it to defeat it, even if I fail. (I succeed more than I fail now, I figure by the time I die I will have control of my tongue perfectly by then...of course, that sounds suspiciously like the passenger who asks the pilot of the plane that is low on fuel if they are going to make it to the ground, and he wryly replies that they will, one way or another...:)
Trump has a foul mouth repeating the short word for pusillanimous to describe Cruz.
he should have been more acceptable in his choice of words, perhaps referring to Cruz and his supporters, he should have used phrases such as "You are all freaking low class jerks".
Or maybe, "STUPID FREAKING LOSERS".
Then there is your favorite,"DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL.".
All would be much more acceptable than "pussy".
Yes. He already had a green card and part of that process informs the person they become eligible for the draft.
But as a General, he definitely must have been who General Lucian Truscott had in mind when he spoke about the necessity for all commanders to have some "sonofabitch" in them.
(I admit one of my favorite anecdotes is about Ernest King, who was known to have a salty mouth: Someone once asked Admiral Ernest J. King if it was he who said, "When they get in trouble they send for the sonsabitches." He replied that he was not -- but that he would have said it if he had thought of it..."
LOL !!! Trump is not General Patton; he is Larry Flynt.
LOL, the equivalent of "Eff off and die!"
I don’t have a problem with a leader swearing on some occasion, like “damn” or whatever. But I have an issue with leaders who descend into personal ad hominem accompanied by foul language.
I am no prude. But I don’t want to hear the “F” word coming out of any of my elected officials. You are expected to be in control of yourself.
I once knew a Captain of a carrier who lined up crewmembers and used the most foul epithets while yelling at them. As I said, I am not prude, but watching this spittle-lipped red-faced performance, it startled, and to a degree, frightened me.
I am not fully against bad language, and those crew members who had brought it on fully deserved it, IMO.
But on a warship with thousands of men and weapons (including nuclear ones) I want my Captain to always be in full control. And that day, it didn’t seem like it to me.
My father was a naval officer, and only once in my entire life did I ever see him become emotionally “unhinged”. Any time he had to discipline us, it was in a low, terrifying tone of voice, and deliberate, measured words with only the most infrequent oaths mixed in. It was his measured approach that scared us. Of course, my mom scared us too, but she was Italian and Armenian, and would completely go off the deep end.
.....how do you know Ted’s father went to Calgary to avoid the draft..is that an opinion or a fact. If fact, back it up..if opinion, horses hit....since he moved back to the States not long after Ted’s birth, leaving Ted and his Mom in Calgary.....
Interesting observation on the timing.
Release the records and we’ll know.
He came left at the height of the war in 1969 and he came back at the end of the war in 1975.
Curious timing, I’d say.
Here are what (I think) are some logical statements:
Using profanity does not make you braver or more honorable.
Not using profanity does not weaken you.
Speaking for myself, I am offended by profanity, BUT I don’t think I am better or “more holy” than anyone. In fact, as a Christian, I know that I am a wretched sinner with no intrinsic righteousness.
From Ephesians 5:
“But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.”
Not bad, but I would alter it:
Using profanity does not make you braver or more honorable, but it can make you weaker and less honorable.
Not using profanity does not make you weaker, but may make you more honorable and effective.
I see Trump supporters completing the culture war by teaming with the left.
No shining city on a hill. Further collapse of basic decency.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/reagan-farewell/
You would have trouble surviving the US military that you claim to love.
Thank you for posting this. Great read.
You’d love the USMC. Especially boot camp. All those young ears hearing the f-word 1000 times a day.
Sad you are so envious of Trump’s success. You are gonna love him as President!!!
Go Trump :)
I need to get King’s biography. I love this entry in Wikipedia: After turning 64 on 23 November 1942, he wrote a message to President Roosevelt to say he had reached mandatory retirement age. Roosevelt replied with a note reading “So what, old top?”
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